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From: Christian von der Ropp <cvdr@vdr.net>
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink for Tonga?
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:05:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d78acc3-1101-c7d2-c7a6-53158b8c1045@vdr.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALjsLJtfz=9LpX6E_g1GO1D6aUH6PnwG2rGcBA27aMgh_10A1A@mail.gmail.com>

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But in practice the satellites won't be sitting and waiting at the edge 
of this 940km radius. They are moving in and out the radius and the 
question is if satellite density is high enough so that once the serving 
satellite loses its gateway link there's another satellite in the 940km 
radius which also covers Tonga. And then this new satellite cannot be 
within certain elevation angles (~60-80° at 0° azimuth) where the 
geostationary arc crosses Fijian skies and the gateway antennas have to 
seize emission. My gut feeling is that availability in Tonga would be 
<90% simply because it's too far out at the edge of a Fijian gateway's 
range where there will be frequent service interruptions.


Am 07.02.2022 um 19:51 schrieb Nathan Owens:
> The current coverage radius of a gateway/ground station with a 25 
> degree minimum elevation is ~940km, so nothing in theory.
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 10:50 AM Daniel AJ Sokolov 
> <daniel@sokolov.eu.org> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     I hope this is not offtopic: Starlink wants to build a ground
>     station on
>     Fiji to supply Tonga with internet.
>
>     The distance between Tonga and Fiji is about 750 km minimum. That's
>     quite the distance.
>
>     What does Starlink have to do to make this work?
>
>     Cheers
>     Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-07 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-07 18:50 Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-07 18:51 ` Nathan Owens
2022-02-07 19:05   ` Christian von der Ropp [this message]
2022-02-07 19:06     ` Nathan Owens
2022-02-07 20:38       ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-07 20:44         ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-10  7:53           ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-07 21:18     ` Ben Greear
2022-02-07 21:24       ` David Lang
2022-02-07 21:36         ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-07 22:22           ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-07 22:29             ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-07 23:36               ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-07 23:47                 ` David Lang
2022-02-08  0:20                   ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-08  1:20                     ` David Lang
2022-02-08  4:46                       ` Inemesit Affia
2022-02-08  6:25                         ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-08  7:30                           ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-08  7:49                             ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-08  8:22                               ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-08  8:47                                 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-08  8:49                                   ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-08  8:58                                     ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-08  9:05                                       ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-08  9:10                                         ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-08 15:22                                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-02-08 10:11                                       ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-08 13:50                                         ` Christian von der Ropp
2022-02-08 15:28                                           ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-08 16:25                                             ` Dave Taht
2022-02-08 18:20                                               ` Gary E. Miller
2022-02-08 19:12                                               ` David Lang
2022-02-09 12:09                                                 ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-09 19:28                                               ` [Starlink] Sunburp kills 40 starlink satellites Doc Searls
2022-02-09 19:51                                                 ` Michael Richardson
2022-02-09 12:58                                   ` [Starlink] Starlink for Tonga? Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-18  5:04               ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-18  7:27                 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-18  9:01                   ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-04-19 11:57                     ` Mike Puchol
2022-04-19 12:06                       ` Dave Taht
2022-04-19 12:43                         ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-04-20  1:06                           ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-04-20  1:14                             ` Jeremy Austin
2022-02-18 10:27                   ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-18 12:48                     ` Rich Brown
2022-02-18 15:43                       ` Nathan Owens
2022-02-18 10:29                   ` Ulrich Speidel

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