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From: Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Kan <michael_kan@pcmag.com>, starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: [Starlink] Re: Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 02:40:20 +0100 (GMT+01:00)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ec7090b-4c44-4c17-a784-ed4107ab5e40@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <554694qo-477p-2915-48qs-qq8qr3413941@ynat.uz>

An image from AWS Invent.

They expect sub 46-50 ms at launch.

None of us live in a POP/NAP but I've seen Speedtest pings on Starlink sub 17ms so..

I wonder what OneWeb is capable of. I'm seeing 45ms as best case for them in the field.

Dec 9, 2025 12:33:51 AM David Lang <david@lang.hm>:

> Michael Kan wrote:
> 
>> latency for Amazon Leo? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZCx612z930
> 
> Until they have the system operational, be very leery about bandwidth and latency claims.
> 
> Remember that Starlink had to do-bloat things to make their user-experienced latency line up with their early lab tests.
> 
> David Lang

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-11  1:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-06 15:36 [Starlink] Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP) Frantisek Borsik
2025-12-06 16:36 ` [Starlink] " J Pan
2025-12-06 23:58 ` David Lang
2025-12-07  0:02   ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-07  0:08     ` David Lang
2025-12-08  4:31       ` Inemesit Affia
     [not found]         ` <5098.1765221714@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2025-12-08 20:57           ` David Lang
     [not found]             ` <2609.1765228007@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2025-12-08 21:15               ` David Lang
2025-12-08 21:22                 ` Michael Kan
2025-12-08 23:19                   ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-08 23:20                     ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-08 23:33                   ` David Lang
2025-12-11  1:40                     ` Inemesit Affia [this message]
2025-12-12 14:12                       ` [Starlink] Wi-Fi Alliance’s QoS Management Specification Release 2 (R2) what's this new standard about? Inemesit Affia
2025-12-09  1:26             ` [Starlink] Re: Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP) David Collier-Brown
2025-12-09  7:49               ` Frantisek Borsik
2025-12-09  8:11                 ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-09  8:23                   ` Frantisek Borsik
2025-12-09  8:21                     ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-09  8:29                       ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-09 21:53                         ` Frantisek Borsik
2025-12-10  1:06                           ` Nick Matthews
2025-12-10  1:24                             ` Frantisek Borsik
2025-12-10  1:45                               ` Joe Hamelin
2025-12-09 13:23       ` Livingood, Jason
2025-12-09 21:33         ` David Lang

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