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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Sauli Kiviranta <smksauli@gmail.com>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
	Ulrich Speidel <u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz>,
	"starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink and Iran
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 07:08:27 -0700 (MST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0or232r4-op62-2700-p842-3rp7s82n6413@ynat.uz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJbqEYDAkEfWr_+sUtFHd9gTuQJuAQF1eEyvxNOJom0a7vbiuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sauli Kiviranta wrote:

> "I have seen reports that SpaceX is in all-hands-on-deck mode to work to 
> defeat the jammers. I expect that this will include things like pointing the 
> beams at different dishy cells than they normally would use, etc."
>
> Do we have any technical characteristics about the jamming how it is
> visible to the application layer? I saw some X posts talk about 20% packet
> loss, some said 80%.
>
> Anyone from SpaceX can comment on what is the challenge "requirements" for
> contributions?

I would not expect this information to be made public. Finding out what SpaceX 
is trying (and even finding out how SpaceX categorizes the attacks as hard/easy 
to deal with) would be valuable information for those trying to block the 
signal.

David Lang

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-15 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-15  9:51 [Starlink] Starlink and Iran Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:06 ` [Starlink] " Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 10:30   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:44     ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 11:16       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:32 ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 10:51   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 11:17 ` David Lang
2026-01-15 11:59   ` Sauli Kiviranta
2026-01-15 14:08     ` David Lang [this message]
2026-01-15 15:29       ` Sauli Kiviranta
     [not found]   ` <3af2ac06-e098-4c79-869d-9c389959ca07@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <q9304244-661o-3qsr-o6rp-9q1nqq09r419@ynat.uz>
     [not found]       ` <4ba64a41-bbbf-4fb5-adb0-c77c15e4ca0f@gmail.com>
2026-01-15 16:20         ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 20:12   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 17:10 ` J Pan
2026-01-15 20:07   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:47     ` Oleg Kutkov
2026-01-16  4:18       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-16  8:12         ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16  8:24           ` Inemesit Affia
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-01-15 14:50 David Fernández
2026-01-15 16:11 ` Oleg Kutkov
2026-01-15 17:13   ` J Pan
     [not found] <176849731431.1249.14387618908540773471@gauss>
2026-01-15 17:42 ` Colin_Higbie
2026-01-15 18:56   ` Jim Forster
2026-01-15 20:15     ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 20:27   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 20:30     ` Hayden Simon
2026-01-15 21:06       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:09         ` Hayden Simon
2026-01-15 21:20           ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:23             ` Hayden Simon
     [not found] <176851123059.1249.8585659892308012167@gauss>
2026-01-15 21:49 ` Colin_Higbie
2026-01-15 23:15   ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16  0:13   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-16  1:29     ` David Lang
2026-01-16 22:55       ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16 23:06         ` J Pan
     [not found]     ` <13187.1768590201@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2026-01-16 23:30       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-17  0:07         ` David Lang
2026-01-17 21:56           ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-19 20:39             ` David Lang
2026-01-28  3:09               ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28  3:30                 ` David Lang
2026-01-28  4:02                   ` Mike Puchol
2026-01-28  9:05                     ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28  9:53                       ` David Lang
2026-01-28 20:43                         ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28 20:55                           ` David Lang
2026-01-17 18:32         ` Michael Richardson
2026-01-17 18:38           ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-17 19:25             ` Michael Richardson
2026-01-17 22:12           ` Ulrich Speidel

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