From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lang.hm; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from mail.lang.hm (wsip-70-167-213-146.ph.ph.cox.net [70.167.213.146]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3670BB857B for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2026 15:08:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.2.2.53] (unknown [10.2.2.53]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0742173EF; Thu, 15 Jan 2026 06:08:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 07:08:27 -0700 (MST) From: David Lang To: Sauli Kiviranta cc: David Lang , Ulrich Speidel , "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0or232r4-op62-2700-p842-3rp7s82n6413@ynat.uz> References: <5c0a93c4-21b2-4297-b4bb-befce0963a93@auckland.ac.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID-Hash: JBZQEYCACVGAGPIJIFUX44LKOBXVLLV5 X-Message-ID-Hash: JBZQEYCACVGAGPIJIFUX44LKOBXVLLV5 X-MailFrom: david@lang.hm X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink and Iran List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sauli Kiviranta wrote: > "I have seen reports that SpaceX is in all-hands-on-deck mode to work to > defeat the jammers. I expect that this will include things like pointing the > beams at different dishy cells than they normally would use, etc." > > Do we have any technical characteristics about the jamming how it is > visible to the application layer? I saw some X posts talk about 20% packet > loss, some said 80%. > > Anyone from SpaceX can comment on what is the challenge "requirements" for > contributions? I would not expect this information to be made public. Finding out what SpaceX is trying (and even finding out how SpaceX categorizes the attacks as hard/easy to deal with) would be valuable information for those trying to block the signal. David Lang