From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Larry Press <lpress@csudh.edu>,
"starlink\@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] It’s the Latency, FCC
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:14:49 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <10211.1710537289@dyas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6LhorECr_zkUGhw0AydEYxjenDjR4hasUFGz7k4OcBVA@mail.gmail.com>
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Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> We made a point, easily demonstrable, that a 10Mbit link with 1ms
> latency (to the nearest CDN) will outperforma 10Gbit link with 50ms.
Agreed.
> I have now been trying to break the common conflation that download
> "speed" means anything at all for day to day, minute to minute, second
> to second, use, once you crack 10mbit, now, for over 14 years. Am I
> succeeding? I lost the 25/10 battle, and keep pointing at really
> terrible latency under load and wifi weirdnesses for many existing
> 100/20 services today.
Yes. The problem starts with the geeks, who in my town seem to readily go for
the 100Mb/s FTTH (GPON) link from the incompetent incumbent telco rather than
the 50/10 VDSL from a competent ISP.
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2024-03-15 3:53 Larry Press
2024-03-15 5:33 ` Dave Taht
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2024-03-15 18:32 ` Colin Higbie
2024-03-15 18:41 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-03-15 19:53 ` Spencer Sevilla
2024-03-15 20:31 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-03-16 17:18 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-03-16 17:21 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-03-16 17:36 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-03-16 22:51 ` David Lang
2024-03-15 23:07 ` David Lang
2024-03-16 18:45 ` [Starlink] Itʼs " Colin_Higbie
2024-03-16 23:05 ` David Lang
2024-03-17 15:47 ` [Starlink] It’s " Colin_Higbie
2024-03-16 18:51 ` [Starlink] It?s " Gert Doering
2024-03-16 23:08 ` David Lang
2024-04-30 0:39 ` [Starlink] It’s " David Lang
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2024-03-16 19:10 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-03-16 19:32 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-03-17 17:00 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-03-17 19:26 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-04-30 9:54 David Fernández
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2024-04-30 14:00 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-04-30 14:25 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-04-30 14:32 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-04-30 14:40 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-04-30 14:45 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-04-30 14:56 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-04-30 15:04 ` David Lang
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2024-04-30 18:05 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-04-30 19:04 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 0:36 ` David Lang
2024-05-02 9:09 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-02 9:28 ` Ulrich Speidel
2024-04-30 20:05 ` Sebastian Moeller
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2024-04-30 19:12 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-04-30 19:31 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 0:33 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 0:31 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 0:40 ` [Starlink] It?s " David Lang
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2024-04-30 19:31 ` [Starlink] It’s " Colin_Higbie
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2024-04-30 21:07 ` Dave Taht
2024-04-30 21:22 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-04-30 22:02 ` Dave Taht
2024-04-30 22:03 ` Dave Taht
2024-04-30 22:05 ` [Starlink] Fwd: " Rich Brown
2024-04-30 22:10 ` Dave Taht
2024-04-30 22:42 ` [Starlink] " Rich Brown
2024-04-30 23:06 ` Dave Taht
2024-04-30 22:31 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-04-30 21:22 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-04-30 21:35 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-04-30 21:53 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 0:54 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 7:27 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-01 19:26 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-14 16:05 ` Dave Taht
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2024-04-30 20:48 ` Colin Higbie
2024-04-30 20:49 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-05-01 0:51 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 8:41 [Starlink] It's " David Fernández
2024-05-01 16:35 David Fernández
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2024-05-02 14:47 ` [Starlink] It’s " Colin_Higbie
2024-05-02 19:50 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-06 11:19 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-06 13:43 ` Nathan Owens
2024-05-06 15:22 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-05-14 19:23 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-05-15 6:52 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-15 14:55 ` Colin_Higbie
2024-05-03 1:48 ` Ulrich Speidel
2024-05-03 7:22 ` Jeremy Austin
2024-05-03 9:02 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-03 8:29 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-03 8:34 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-03 9:09 [Starlink] It's " David Fernández
2024-05-06 13:21 [Starlink] It’s " David Fernández
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