From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45A663CB38 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777293898B; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id SjvAbjarFACp; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F6238988; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:22:29 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1717986149; bh=qE43jPiCuVan++sBZ5kV6Gn2luFBOTh7A3PbY+/AD0I=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ersx3elcHioqwmx0+Hm3+7jdCF+HlDUjhq4Y22P2iGlnNemDLTPv6kvy5e32ehnXz 2rjZqoNkvKYknT2AAva7w82hH8LWSLC+vMlJ4uWT+5BRLY0n86F+hfDoDCj4X/kNrK EJ0ublIrKLelFm9pxRyzUdBfuufnpd9nmjskZEUY1jWz7LVFe0kh8AkNz92BAODxz3 80OT6SMDgBugwWc3jr6DO+c1+cpJWcthCMyC65TSsYyr8Jsg84oh4GtQCCG6NasCb5 kp3ZgAeGD24Wsy7Eyg4lOefv87PSgAm7GBhrg+x5sZLuV5C3A9bAw1FWmfSxpvdQ9z 33k7i2CpXTIcQ== Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C90247A; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:22:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Dave Taht , Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8+dev; GNU Emacs 28.2 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starship's 4th flight test was magnificent X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 02:22:32 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > When they kicked into the Blue Danube, during Starship's coast phase, I > started dancing around the boat. The landing phase was a real > nailbiter, but seeing starlink maintain connectivity through nearly it > all of that plasma was amazing, too. To be massively cheered up about Silly legal/technical question: When starship is in a suborbital, ~140km apogee (coast phase) over Atlantic Ocean or Africa, whose jurisdiction are the power limits set by? If at 140km altitude, that's 20% to 30% closer to the satellites than on land. OTH, it's moving really fast, and does the hand-off really work? Are they just using TCP (or maybe QUIC) for data, or something else? Also, during the entire Tonga situation, Ulrich provided lots of really good explanation of how hard it was to do a downlink. That was before the space lasers. I would guess that this data link required inter-satellite lasers, since downlink over oceans (and probably Africa) would be difficult. > Lastly, I couldn't help but imagine small repair robots deploying once > in orbit to get a full view of every tile on starship, and perhaps > effect repairs. Call 'em Hewey, Duey and Louie.... Naw. R2-xx are Astro *MECHS*. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfMoXBOjWBM -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFFBAEBCgAvFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmZmY2URHG1jckBzYW5k ZWxtYW4uY2EACgkQgItw+93Q3WVdUwgAo5eqVnVnlg3pnIJf2a/iIo9wIQffWXJz hXUEKJcKQiorEaCyXWOWtaWdwqcDhVWBhpUaq8IiMddNAFDEazXGW8psAh/OyI7c a+FdTVzDlmaiPLExapaQtejfdK6UemMFI2yFjhYNn54IjsfS7cGexx85UHedEX4v uuXUWhzcNYct+JvxmcVduWwvwLgT+yF2otJ+69tP76IZEik5iy1gkXazSZ+FiHcP XWNLxMSuc63uGoWQmYENplkFvBDSi3UgyvmbMhkJHvtFH4icgqbReNBjhxiACbqa tcX0rLyZk99X6T/WOjVGJjoKJmHCb/G1hua8oVXKbHDF8ptyuhHq/Q== =U6Ri -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--