From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DA5B3CB35 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 10:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D2D38B8F; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 10:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id XYLqTjCC2ZSr; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 10:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B005438B12; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 10:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D09553; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 10:56:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Dave Taht , Nathan Owens , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: <4XxOdTE7SSKV1PSkdhm_Ng@geopod-ismtpd-3-0> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Starlink] ordered my dishy!! X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 14:56:12 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave Taht wrote: > In this case I just need to get on a couple times a day, download my > email, grab a few new music files, get the weather report, and get > off. So I really don=E2=80=99t need all that much power for very long= , except > to surf the web briefly and make a ton of videoconference calls. An > hour or two a day, tops. While IMAP/SMTP-SUBMIT let you do that, you could also run UUCP (which is s= till practical). A local caching HTTP cache which knows how and when to override ETAG, and can do some predictive guesses. cake means that it doesn't have to get out of the way of your videoconferences... But, I think you want a rather small (bits/second) always-on downlink chann= el that would let people call you. > tidbit - one time recently I was 10 miles out at sea, in a 25 knot ga= le > and 15+ seas trying to write something down important, and I hit the > wrong key and the !@#!@@ new apple M1 laptop asked me: > =E2=80=9Cdo you want to install siri=E2=80=9D > "No, damn it, I just want to write stuff. If there=E2=80=99s no frigg= in > internet why on earth do I want to use siri?=E2=80=9D Maybe need to send some Siri programmers to the backside of the moon for a week! I also had the idea of sending the Android team on a week-long hike in data-free hills so they'd understand what it meant to be offline and still need to have a map and email and ... =2D- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh network= s [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect = [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails = [ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmDV7ogACgkQgItw+93Q 3WWlXQf/TS7rkrf3/D2J8oZ/q2nO4zedcbrtmsGbVqM9UoOvjVHTIGmPelcraG8U gGWiMOlFztbFOlCxqiNHWvZWaQIw/e7o6rXhIAbCry96YF/jaWSQL6eqlNF24207 Om3CZj+IgXPO/sEIrLEdQhszpsfPgjchf3zA8IAiqyg/rGlMLEuVihdIuXu+f2Rk A0Hkrwrw4POyOi0VRU+1ie0Qo8vLFK2v6H1GgIrLcLQ94FtzCvukm177NEaDIkC0 ld1P5lgz37nP/FjkaZRWwmcHHyT3pJaAhDsZES2G2n0yXZ180Pl59puI+YAJOVR3 pN1KmLwTD7QpJKMQ4/E5YIOQewaT5A== =917W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--