From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFBD83B29E for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 13:29:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32FA3898E; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QRTfouWXnNrr; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2:56b2:3ff:fe0b:d84]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AA23898B; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:00:25 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1676660425; bh=BR4bmRR2Lh067XcfKcN5qP3WcxNosKBKHB+fNjsGHNM=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=FnDWJ6GCZB3D6NyRWu4b+UFDgOLHdXiLVZMlMDaC4CqEe9ZfqkC6Vg2l+KqqKiiy/ gP9Aq1BtHk87BDr+eav7E7raoF7wU8eUiHv/ghnhZCIW1LrmCIYo299n/R86/twOOA juxlE5uBExxaeKBo/TTzglmQhQz1Fhyr3dWVaBpuLzfZ01REUJTrSnF1DMjLfFpxqg d6N4QxoJKhrdgIGjc4Ovy3RhqN7K8z6chlbdkIyQ0SImDnvGOAQ6DNFbSxPd3DdedJ C4QvTKugFq4LKjilbUVd2DVPB9jXJCFA+ebYXd47SRDv2FjMo5kfngAJHDGdhOKLrQ plUdFYVYtvp9Q== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8990915B; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 13:29:23 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Adam Thompson , "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 27.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Starlink] VPN woes, recommendations? X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 18:29:25 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Do we know for sure that the starlink terminals don't do any kind of TCP performance enhancing proxy? (TCP ACK spoofing) VPNs hide that info. I believe that the Flent tests would also ignore such things. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFFBAEBCgAvFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmPvx4MRHG1jckBzYW5k ZWxtYW4uY2EACgkQgItw+93Q3WVXgwgAsvTwIiO5g353wmO+cnDg/4UNqTeqKRUd aXh3HYE7+zl4PCXHoymtATpUoE5pOKM2ibRN87uPx1qI+NitccyXswkOSV9SomS3 QCvt6o0667F2EF7UaaqoX3AmyWv5TSgRnjQAJFY3qQHbgJQepOMBCfkogRhLlRBd c+XKcgCNsV4QZ7LDRXo/EqK8WsOmcMVjim69re1aj3s0hEnSxHWpF2RrnqNBUFLv nQPv7ZZq0wGZisT6y0jMlA9DO6v32usw3fH46ryc7TQKg3bp+Iy9SFcKwXGRjD6/ VCedMm/uUBfC/d9mYlkMz9QCdwV16/6Y0RKY7XjQ9UvWAjT++7fgCA== =YPL+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--