From: Daniel AJ Sokolov <daniel@falco.ca>
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doing so.
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:46:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1443dd3b-67b1-4ace-a71c-26728b1632e0@falco.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw7CYnNSQeOGkJQ-NcLBd12hx-Q8Te654VorJX8giLEL8Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 2023-10-29 at 09:26, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:
> I think that the internet should stay up, connecting people to people,
> through all the conflicts we may ever have.
Indeed, if the internet had stayed up, Israel and Gaza would not be in
the situation they are today.
The first thing the Hamas attacked were not people, or bridges, but the
communication infrastructure of the villages. That enabled the Hamas to
kill some 1400 people, mostly civilians, and take hundreds of hostages,
mostly civilians, in a few hours. Without communications, the IDF was
deaf and blind.
(Why did they not have or use analogue radios?)
However, if we could create an international rule to not disable
communications, and then get terrorist groups like the Hamas to obey it,
we could probably prevent terrorist groups like the Hamas from targeting
civilians, taking civilians as hostages, using hospitals and schools as
shields, etc. All of that is already outlawed.
So don't hold your breath. Communications will generally be one of the
first targets in any armed conflict. It has been like that for a very
long time.
There is an irony in this: Wasn't the internet a military project meant
to survive armageddon?
BR
Daniel AJ
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-30 17:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-29 16:06 the keyboard of geoff goodfellow
2023-10-29 16:26 ` Dave Taht
2023-10-29 19:10 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-10-29 19:38 ` Dave Taht
2023-10-30 4:32 ` Joe Hamelin
2023-10-30 5:56 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-10-30 12:03 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-10-30 12:47 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-10-30 13:30 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-10-30 16:49 ` David Lang
2023-10-31 12:57 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-10-31 14:26 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-11-11 5:09 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-11-11 23:47 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-11-13 10:15 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-11-13 16:03 ` David Lang
2023-11-14 8:48 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-10-30 12:54 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-10-30 13:10 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-10-30 13:39 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-10-30 6:02 ` Dave Taht
2023-10-30 17:46 ` Daniel AJ Sokolov [this message]
2023-10-30 18:47 ` [Starlink] [off-topic] " Dave Collier-Brown
2023-10-30 18:47 ` [Starlink] " Alexandre Petrescu
2023-10-30 19:58 ` Frantisek Borsik
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