From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Daniel Schien <Daniel.Schien@bristol.ac.uk>
Cc: Vint Cerf <vint=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>,
"tom@evslin.com" <tom@evslin.com>,
starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
"e-impact@ietf.org" <e-impact@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] [E-impact] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 10:18:00 -0400 [thread overview]
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Daniel Schien <Daniel.Schien@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
> I assume any object in orbit will be hidden from the sun some of the
> time. So, the machines will require some pretty big battery to go up
> with them.
Why would we do that? Make the orbits polar/sun-synchronous.
While GEO is pretty busy, I wonder if there are other interesting orbits.
Obviously, Lagrange points are one set, but are there half-GEO or 2xGEO
orbits that are somehow useful?
One point I got from Geoff Houston's talk on PING which I didn't understand
clearly before was that LEO wasn't just close to use, but that it was much
better protected from radiation.
> "Data centers are big energy consumers – between 2% and 3% of all
> global consumption – a rate that is doubling every year."
Back in 2000 the coal industry did a "study" that explained how coal was
critical to Internet growth. Their modelling assumed every home router used
the same power as a Cisco 7000 series 14U router.
> The latest was IEA estimating it to be around 220-320 TWh (out of
> 30,000) in 2021 data and growing between 10-60% over 6 years in total
> (so let's than 10 CAGR). But it's certainly not doubling every
> year. That's just completely wrong.
+1
A related number is density: what's the power required/gigaflop?
And when will countries start rating themselves by gigaflops rather than tons
of steel or barrels of oil?
{You down the street from Bistol Aerospace?}
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-20 14:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-13 16:34 [Starlink] fiber IXPs in space David Fernández
2023-04-13 17:22 ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-13 18:54 ` David Fernández
2023-04-13 20:01 ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-13 20:06 ` Tom Evslin
2023-04-19 23:34 ` [Starlink] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space) Michael Richardson
2023-04-20 1:12 ` tom
2023-04-20 1:16 ` Vint Cerf
[not found] ` <ZECsG+Ldro3V5+/4@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
2023-04-20 3:25 ` [Starlink] [E-impact] " Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 5:43 ` Daniel Schien
2023-04-20 9:31 ` Chris Adams
2023-04-20 12:50 ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 12:51 ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-27 3:13 ` Eugene Y Chang
2023-04-20 11:10 ` Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 11:23 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-04-20 11:24 ` David Lang
2023-04-20 12:06 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2023-04-20 21:21 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-04-20 12:14 ` tom
2023-04-20 14:36 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2023-04-20 14:18 ` Michael Richardson [this message]
2023-04-27 3:50 ` David Lang
2023-04-20 11:25 ` [Starlink] " Hesham ElBakoury
2023-04-20 11:27 ` Nathan Owens
2023-04-20 11:34 ` Mike Puchol
2023-04-20 14:21 ` Michael Richardson
2023-04-20 4:33 ` Ulrich Speidel
2023-04-20 14:12 ` Michael Richardson
[not found] <mailman.128.1682362805.60209.e-impact@ietf.org>
2023-04-24 20:59 ` [Starlink] [E-impact] " Priyanka Sinha
2023-04-27 3:18 ` Eugene Chang
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