Hmmmm….. is ground station positioning more about geographic topology or managing subscriber density? I suspect it is easier to manage subscriber density (and aggregate traffic) by building higher capacity ground stations than by distributing ground stations. Gene ---------------------------------------------- Eugene Chang IEEE Senior Life Member eugene.chang@ieee.org 781-799-0233 (in Honolulu) > On Sep 28, 2022, at 11:14 PM, David Lang wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Sep 2022, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > >>> On Sep 29, 2022, at 09:50, Eugene Y Chang via Starlink wrote: >>> >>> Good point… that sure makes matching new capacity to new subscribers really hard. >> >> [SM] Or easy: "just" add more satellites ;) some of the added capacity should also end up at new subscribers... SCNR > > yep, which is what they are doing. ;-) > > there is some that they can do in terms of the ground station positioning, density, and connectivity. > > David Lang > >> Regards >> Sebastian >> >> >>> >>> Gene >>> ---------------------------------------------- >>> Eugene Chang >>> IEEE Senior Life Member >>> eugene.chang@ieee.org >>> 781-799-0233 (in Honolulu) >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 28, 2022, at 6:29 PM, David Lang wrote: >>>> >>>> that strip of land is different every orbit, a given satellite doesn't pass over the same land each orbit. >>>> >>>> David Lang >>>> >>>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, Eugene Y Chang wrote: >>>> >>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 14:40:35 -1000 >>>>> From: Eugene Y Chang >>>>> To: David Lang >>>>> Cc: Eugene Chang , Dotzero , >>>>> Dave Taht via Starlink >>>>> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "Best Effort" offering >>>>> Yes and no. >>>>> >>>>> Yes they can beef up the constellation, one section at a time. (For a given launch, the are enhancing a particular orbit.) >>>>> >>>>> Depending on your definition of “one area” when you say “not in any one area”. >>>>> Technically they would beef up an area in the shape of strips, where the strip is the ground under the orbit of the additional (new) satellites. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, when I say “add service to an area”, it implies adding coverage to strips of land, the land under the new satellite orbit. >>>>> >>>>> https://satellitemap.space/?constellation=starlink >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gene >>>>> ---------------------------------------------- >>>>> Eugene Chang >>>>> IEEE Senior Life Member >>>>> eugene.chang@ieee.org >>>>> 781-799-0233 (in Honolulu) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 28, 2022, at 1:35 PM, David Lang wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The Starlink satellites are in low orbit (<90 min), so you beef up the contellation overall, not in any one area. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Lang >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, Eugene Y Chang via Starlink wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:07:43 -1000 >>>>>>> From: Eugene Y Chang via Starlink >>>>>>> Reply-To: Eugene Y Chang >>>>>>> To: Dotzero >>>>>>> Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "Best Effort" offering >>>>>>> What is the definition and differences between regular and best effort service? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Creating two bookings queue, wait list and best effort subscribers, the best effort subscribers are more “real”. With that, treating best effort subscribers as a (more) "real customer" backlog, it would be a good way to prioritize where to expand the constellation (i.e. where to add capacity). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gene >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Eugene Chang >>>>>>> IEEE Senior Life Member >>>>>>> eugene.chang@ieee.org >>>>>>> 781-799-0233 (in Honolulu) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Dotzero via Starlink wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been on the wait list for almost 10 months and just received an email that I can sign up for a "best efforts" offering. Seeing as they also indicated the estimated time for regular service is mid-2023, I decided to go with it (You don't lose your place on the wait list). You can also "pause" the best effort service so I don't really have anything to lose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Has anyone had experience with this offering? Any input appreciated. If it makes a difference, location is Central East Ohio. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1002-69942-69?regionCode=US , latency will be comparable to regular service, down will be 5-100mbs and up will be 1-10mps unless service is deprioritized due to congestion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Starlink mailing list >>>>>>>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>>>>>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Starlink mailing list >>>>>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>>>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Starlink mailing list >>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >>