From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4D793B29E for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2022 15:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A2818055; Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1cE65lcdE_qx; Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58C2398DD; Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:17:04 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1662063424; bh=EqnzyD6etoIAmjq1SBcyBpLLow8UChkR6u5iZcsr1yI=; h=From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=iLc9hiEVpWlY1AL/MwOMLNuN5RvBCe6CmKuEGjdt+7MHYjoVqUaokR3of6KDm+vrv DD3DM/QJJYRuG83VVurdBJYYZQ2pSzE7CYf6B4zKT7QvckHtSakyyvh9mFs0ChpnVh q9ki2h2wop0VkJXcimZrYyGN6gaxk+EVo5UU1PIFRiPLu9ieMIsZwKv3EmVt2ucj61 IYmDI0DL7dL3BhsnL79O99G41GjsGe3e4rBFEkL3eu4wZ152dHVWPn4JsrQBEw102C UIUNPNypAnLFVEOHnX2ytATjyIMsmfjEwkfsRdcrn7QHHpg2XwyvCK3K9Rk2sdtNjP uTw3x5cSHTnKg== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB727F7; Thu, 1 Sep 2022 15:56:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: =?us-ascii?Q?=3D=3FUTF-8=3FQ=3FDavid=5FFern=3DC3=3DA1ndez=3F=3D?= cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 27.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "beam spread" X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:56:37 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Fern=C3=A1ndez via Starlink wrote: > If Starlink satellites are processing IP packets, shouldn't them be > shown in traceroutes? They are not shown now, AFAIK. sadly, they aren't doing IP processing. I don't think that they ever will decide to for NIH reasons. I suspect that their SDN hardware probably can, and I think that SR6 is probably ideal for their use, but... --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFFBAEBCgAvFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmMRDnARHG1jckBzYW5k ZWxtYW4uY2EACgkQgItw+93Q3WUp0Af+KIdDFDvjZy4ya0b+pbxCras+/vZPmPwx aT8oywY2LA2skzM/dDU0fPNzqinwceEVROYE4DC88YdCOqTX7EpsGk1VpqxhDBsD 0WxJSrkB3I2hvaDMvq59ZHf93myA42gF3OZN5q3Y8MBNXdxuj7J/jbAaJ/tiJ2eg QyzSNoe1odUDoKxOgEpmZx+Ygb0NtqdvqGWC4FJu/fhh1LItyVq2k0I0xlTjScDp NNIKIsKNQ4muC77eeh9Ty2zfmyR9LwXwaykGOQNPiPPs6+ktQJZhe4B0W57dfoZB R79tY5M9ZhumAkGh43XzVreY6+EJPjfaZli5BH8a1rwlOhsg9fl3ng== =oyrr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--