From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 836E03CB37 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2024 19:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FE13898D for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2024 19:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id SN8SF_eei6cx for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2024 19:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92B83898B for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2024 19:10:38 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1717715438; bh=3ym47FYxczLFl/6fvyelCXu88gAY6BtAMbBmQ7zmblM=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=fXEmWf+MBt+4/j+xfKIIx8A5/Lcn7DVQ1G/0VOVnZ3DIprbdQ9htjgWj2c7DL8xRT tehGrAkY+imX0BXu4wzDPc8IOhgEY651GrzDwouBT87TU737Y9v8ibZJmnuLQ4l/z0 nJSDEGGuLORBesjCOM8XW/+V+L5CY5EruH177RCARa8kPpxxpIqxzHm36QZGJQyIZK AkF4YKdITrvyHLF84rXMdd2W37kTaMz36WoXiN/SFn5Gp7PpHHTBarnFyuihA8FW+o jKqJkXttLH25lPIipV+ky17dbJTEgnqGuRoy8kLWIrHU6yy0LyoQ/82XIoF44Uh713 9XUip3eV2ZJPw== Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CC5EF7 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2024 19:10:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: starlink In-Reply-To: <2F613DF8-3F06-4355-82F6-5543565DFE4A@gmx.de> References: <467ccff0-5586-4b9f-b656-e1aa3d1865b4@kit.edu> <2F613DF8-3F06-4355-82F6-5543565DFE4A@gmx.de> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8+dev; GNU Emacs 28.2 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 23:10:40 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Sebastian Moeller via Starlink wrote: > [SM] Yes, however Gaming is not in the enumerated list of use-cases the > regulator cares about (in the context of the minimal internet quality > end users are guaranteed). That's too bad, because online work/school are effectively a technology subset of gaming :-) And gamers seem to know good quality, it's somewhat easy to test and gamers aren't afraid to demand it, changing ISPs if they have to. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFFBAEBCgAvFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmZiQe4RHG1jckBzYW5k ZWxtYW4uY2EACgkQgItw+93Q3WV4Xgf+OydA7jxEM/dQWYLwS53YlSS1wluNbqnp OENTyhDZmPP2T+8mvkRzIRKXEuZt2jDgS7tIvRGJB/gc63CR35gEhhfYcyaOUAWq oSpc+eA2MzGagrTXDBBTbocyzLh1D4Eu7pW1G156RLlDNy6kDznUVC1NopUFB2hm qgu9KNkwYlu5u1DH3J9j9fRx4dw9MzCTumcJyBLIOgVJ12hpf7Ch0GmPx4DSkGuh +xggv3cEUQdJRGWV/T0jnTEV+LIsgjvsvqjzo4OabqdB4vy6BRB1lOnW7OLSP2GF kfYgYPUcsy3dJOygcJ/Px8fm6lBVymLQTszjUKNiA7AldRPQBLt3ww== =kKdh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--