From: Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>
To: Eugene Y Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org>
Cc: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>,
Colin_Higbie <CHigbie1@Higbie.name>,
Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem
Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 06:50:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <175CC5C3-F70A-49E8-A84D-87E24C04EABD@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <961EDB45-E91D-4D1D-B81B-9D032E8CFC6B@ieee.org>
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Hi Gene,
> On May 6, 2024, at 8:38 PM, Eugene Y Chang <eugene.chang@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> It seems like you signed off on this challenge. Don’t do that. Help give me the tools to push this to the next level.
Not at all - I'm definitely signed up for this. But I collected all these points so we can be clear-eyed about the objections that people cite.
Bufferbloat definitely exists. And there are straightforward technical solutions. And as you say, our challenge is to find a way to build the case for broad adoption of these techniques.
Best regards,
Rich
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2024-04-30 18:05 ` [Starlink] It’s the Latency, FCC Colin_Higbie
2024-04-30 19:04 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 0:36 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 1:30 ` [Starlink] Itʼs " Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 1:52 ` Jim Forster
2024-05-01 3:59 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 4:12 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 10:15 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-01 18:51 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 19:18 ` David Lang
2024-05-01 21:11 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-01 22:10 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 21:12 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-01 21:27 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-01 22:19 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-06 11:25 ` [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem Rich Brown
2024-05-06 12:11 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2024-05-07 0:43 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 12:05 ` Dave Collier-Brown
[not found] ` <CAJUtOOhH3oPDCyo=mk=kwzm5DiFp7OZPiFu+0MzajTQqps==_g@mail.gmail.com>
2024-05-06 19:47 ` Rich Brown
2024-05-07 0:38 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 10:50 ` Rich Brown [this message]
2024-05-08 1:48 ` Dave Taht
2024-05-08 7:58 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-08 8:01 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-08 18:29 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 18:19 ` Stuart Cheshire
2024-06-04 20:06 ` Sauli Kiviranta
2024-06-04 20:58 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-05 11:36 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 13:08 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2024-06-05 13:28 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 13:40 ` Gert Doering
2024-06-05 13:43 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 14:16 ` David Lang
2024-06-05 15:10 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-05 16:21 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 19:17 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-04 23:03 ` Rich Brown
2024-06-04 23:36 ` [Starlink] Consumer Reportes (was: The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem) David Collier-Brown
2024-06-06 17:51 ` [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem Stuart Cheshire
2024-06-07 2:28 ` Dave Taht
2024-06-07 5:36 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07 7:51 ` Gert Doering
2024-05-02 19:17 ` [Starlink] Itʼs the Latency, FCC Michael Richardson
2024-05-02 9:09 ` [Starlink] It’s " Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-02 9:28 ` Ulrich Speidel
2024-04-30 20:05 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-05-02 9:21 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-05-07 12:13 [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem David Fernández
2024-05-07 12:46 ` Dave Collier-Brown
2024-05-07 19:09 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 19:11 ` Dave Taht
2024-05-07 19:14 ` Jeremy Austin
2024-05-07 19:46 ` Dave Taht
2024-05-07 20:03 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-07 20:05 ` Frantisek Borsik
2024-05-07 20:25 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-05-08 9:31 David Fernández
2024-06-05 14:46 David Fernández
2024-06-05 14:57 ` Vint Cerf
2024-06-06 17:12 ` Michael Richardson
2024-06-06 10:18 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-06 10:37 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2024-06-06 10:33 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-06-05 15:16 David Fernández
2024-06-05 15:21 ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2024-06-05 15:32 ` David Fernández
2024-06-05 16:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-06 23:10 ` Michael Richardson
2024-06-07 1:39 ` David Lang
2024-06-07 6:20 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07 17:41 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-07 17:51 ` David Lang
2024-06-07 20:09 ` Eugene Y Chang
2024-06-08 1:53 ` David Lang
2024-06-05 16:23 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-06 7:07 ` David Fernández
2024-06-06 7:41 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-06-07 7:36 David Fernández
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