From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pl1-x62e.google.com (mail-pl1-x62e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 495083B29D for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 19:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x62e.google.com with SMTP id n7so4227260plp.1 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 16:07:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ieee.org; s=google; h=references:to:cc:in-reply-to:date:subject:mime-version:message-id :from:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=VMSoAp3HUTHgbpOyoRo9dbAeSDFYf8MZ7LSfDtVJKK4=; b=BjYtoT8sgTcBOUAtNdxkcU+y+CRST1vl/1dC0rYOLkj5vhp/2b7AoUijO845RbEEvO OzzZa9UeVJ8k/mIi5rJmQgwUy+gJdhprIgoXmg5kt8M/rsLuzNc7SwnWsH3ZAot26tEq 1dlTpHMEVmDrdZe26KhyFbmFxuR5uFT9cjNz4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=references:to:cc:in-reply-to:date:subject:mime-version:message-id :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=VMSoAp3HUTHgbpOyoRo9dbAeSDFYf8MZ7LSfDtVJKK4=; b=sXAcAjvwQZuLE4SKmBKpKtyr5SFUzrc8P7AYZqotmVqYNuSd62IbMxUS48CsWYFejG BefieTFx0uMID/rk4s62ptD6wfrOW8ny6yIvWCz8p8MtShH3LlauvjsD0CFsYK5zNIKN Cgq+x8lEQhMC8IcimJbm0E9KHc8vKZ+piJYlLBg1RrpUCikVab1CediRSDDXKdLAjalq RCbL180lARQKlkRLG2tH4InsezLAbq5hZ7SCcEn5HLmKdQA7BoqzzrSTNdQeHfNGRPU8 Dw4bq8ewhC6IFNsgB28DlwsvbjfnUCRcNb26kW9ofcfhauzKOBOZ9yhj1x81P7hpuAHy 9oUA== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf2SgYa0/qtU99YyzPhz/TsAy0FS8nnMoLOeCU3Tvg9eDpZ7v4D4 98RceZNkVbBNwTcAZq3P3patHw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM5nQpewAfJ3/NmuPf4E7WQNDPePVAWgQl/MtmaNOEHCb3fNkqGfbwrfgoIPWFb3KXHmEELM5Q== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:9690:b0:17a:4cf:edeb with SMTP id n16-20020a170902969000b0017a04cfedebmr314845plp.129.1664406466128; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 16:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (dhcp-72-253-196-65.hawaiiantel.net. [72.253.196.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z23-20020aa79497000000b00540fee4a680sm4600955pfk.41.2022.09.28.16.07.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Sep 2022 16:07:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Eugene Y Chang Message-Id: <198D364D-DA0E-445A-8E13-FDA24486E30C@ieee.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_18805611-7162-4D8B-B395-D23A102B1CF5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 13:07:43 -1000 In-Reply-To: Cc: Eugene Chang , Dave Taht via Starlink To: Dotzero References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "Best Effort" offering X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 23:07:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_18805611-7162-4D8B-B395-D23A102B1CF5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EA70542C-9BA9-4E10-9D68-BDF6FF8E5B2C" --Apple-Mail=_EA70542C-9BA9-4E10-9D68-BDF6FF8E5B2C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 What is the definition and differences between regular and best effort = service? Creating two bookings queue, wait list and best effort subscribers, the = best effort subscribers are more =E2=80=9Creal=E2=80=9D. With that, = treating best effort subscribers as a (more) "real customer" backlog, it = would be a good way to prioritize where to expand the constellation = (i.e. where to add capacity). Gene ---------------------------------------------- Eugene Chang IEEE Senior Life Member eugene.chang@ieee.org 781-799-0233 (in Honolulu) > On Sep 28, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Dotzero via Starlink = wrote: >=20 > I've been on the wait list for almost 10 months and just received an = email that I can sign up for a "best efforts" offering. Seeing as they = also indicated the estimated time for regular service is mid-2023, I = decided to go with it (You don't lose your place on the wait list). You = can also "pause" the best effort service so I don't really have anything = to lose. >=20 > Has anyone had experience with this offering? Any input appreciated. = If it makes a difference, location is Central East Ohio. >=20 > According to = https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1002-69942-69?regionCode=3DUS= = , latency will be comparable to regular service, down will be 5-100mbs = and up will be 1-10mps unless service is deprioritized due to = congestion. >=20 > Thanks in advance. >=20 > Mike >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --Apple-Mail=_EA70542C-9BA9-4E10-9D68-BDF6FF8E5B2C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 What = is the definition and differences between regular and best effort = service?

Creating = two bookings queue, wait list and best effort subscribers, the best = effort subscribers are more =E2=80=9Creal=E2=80=9D. With that, treating = best effort subscribers as a (more) "real customer" backlog, it would be = a good way to prioritize where to expand the constellation (i.e. where = to add capacity).

Gene
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Eugene Chang
IEEE Senior Life = Member
eugene.chang@ieee.org
781-799-0233 (in = Honolulu)



On Sep 28, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Dotzero via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

I've been on the wait list for almost 10 = months and just received an email that I can sign up for a "best = efforts" offering. Seeing as they also indicated the estimated time for = regular service is mid-2023, I decided to go with it (You don't lose = your place on the wait list). You can also "pause" the best effort = service so I don't really have anything to lose.

Has anyone had experience with this = offering? Any input appreciated. If it makes a difference, location is = Central East Ohio.

According to https://www.starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1002-69942-69?regi= onCode=3DUS, latency will be comparable to regular service, down = will be 5-100mbs and up will be 1-10mps unless service is deprioritized = due to congestion.

Thanks in advance.

Mike

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