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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
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Frantisek Borsik via Starlink wrote:

> The same as with Amazon Leo - the biggest issue will be bufferbloat.

I think it is going to depend a lot on who their launch provider is and who 
their satellite manufacturer is.

Leo is going to suffer from having to pay higher launch costs as they avoid 
using SpaceX, and they are building more traditional satellites than Starlink, 
which is both more expensive per satellite and can't launch as many in one shot.

Remember that Elon Musk had to fire the satellite teams management to get them 
into the 'cattle not pets' mindset. I don't think any other aerospace companies 
(other than ones run by former SpaceX folks) really buy in to that yet.

and then there is the huge difference between the SpaceX launc COST and the 
SpaceX launch PRICE (which is still significantly lower then the competition)

Bufferbloat can be an issue, but until you get enough birds in space, it isn't 
going to matter as much, you will actually be very short of bandwidth.

David Lang