[Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router

[Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router

[Dave Taht]

Really good teardown and analysis here:

https://olegkutkov.me/2021/12/25/analysis-and-reverse-engineering-of-the-original-starlink-router/

According to his twitter feed, he's now deep into the dishy:
https://twitter.com/olegkutkov

I really hope the original starlink router gets updated to a modern
openwrt. The offloads they presently use in that product are just not
needed at the speeds the dishy runs at and there are so many
advantages to that modern codebase.

I did get a shot at the newer dishy and wifi router over the holiday
myself, (without, sigh, an ethernet port) but my primary interest is
merely in finding a way to effectively run fq-codel derived algos on
or near it and not have to tear it apart.


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Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

Re: [Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router

[David Lang]

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The new square dish no longer uses a rj-45 cable between the dish and the 
router, they have some new connector (looks limilar to USB-C, but flared on one 
side like micro-USB)

has anyone seen a teardown of the new dish/router yet? (I'm not willing to 
sacrafice my dish, but I may be willing to open the router for what little good 
it will do, but will probably wait until after I get the ethernet adapter first.

David Lang

On Mon, 10 Jan 2022, Dave Taht wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:32:34 -0800
> From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Subject: [Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router
> 
> Really good teardown and analysis here:
>
> https://olegkutkov.me/2021/12/25/analysis-and-reverse-engineering-of-the-original-starlink-router/
>
> According to his twitter feed, he's now deep into the dishy:
> https://twitter.com/olegkutkov
>
> I really hope the original starlink router gets updated to a modern
> openwrt. The offloads they presently use in that product are just not
> needed at the speeds the dishy runs at and there are so many
> advantages to that modern codebase.
>
> I did get a shot at the newer dishy and wifi router over the holiday
> myself, (without, sigh, an ethernet port) but my primary interest is
> merely in finding a way to effectively run fq-codel derived algos on
> or near it and not have to tear it apart.
>
>
> -- 
> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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Re: [Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router

[Nathan Owens]

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It’s a cat5e cable with custom waterproof connectors, still seems to be
Ethernet+ PoE

Haven’t seen a teardown yet…

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:27 PM David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:

> The new square dish no longer uses a rj-45 cable between the dish and the
> router, they have some new connector (looks limilar to USB-C, but flared
> on one
> side like micro-USB)
>
> has anyone seen a teardown of the new dish/router yet? (I'm not willing to
> sacrafice my dish, but I may be willing to open the router for what little
> good
> it will do, but will probably wait until after I get the ethernet adapter
> first.
>
> David Lang
>
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022, Dave Taht wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:32:34 -0800
> > From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> > To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > Subject: [Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router
> >
> > Really good teardown and analysis here:
> >
> >
> https://olegkutkov.me/2021/12/25/analysis-and-reverse-engineering-of-the-original-starlink-router/
> >
> > According to his twitter feed, he's now deep into the dishy:
> > https://twitter.com/olegkutkov
> >
> > I really hope the original starlink router gets updated to a modern
> > openwrt. The offloads they presently use in that product are just not
> > needed at the speeds the dishy runs at and there are so many
> > advantages to that modern codebase.
> >
> > I did get a shot at the newer dishy and wifi router over the holiday
> > myself, (without, sigh, an ethernet port) but my primary interest is
> > merely in finding a way to effectively run fq-codel derived algos on
> > or near it and not have to tear it apart.
> >
> >
> > --
> > I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
> >
> > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
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Re: [Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router

[Dave Täht]

David: Have you been getting anywhere?

https://forum.openwrt.org/t/cake-w-adaptive-bandwidth/108848/2320

is about as ready for starlink testing as we can get it.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 09:27:16PM -0800, David Lang wrote:
> The new square dish no longer uses a rj-45 cable between the dish and the
> router, they have some new connector (looks limilar to USB-C, but flared on
> one side like micro-USB)
> 
> has anyone seen a teardown of the new dish/router yet? (I'm not willing to
> sacrafice my dish, but I may be willing to open the router for what little
> good it will do, but will probably wait until after I get the ethernet
> adapter first.
> 
> David Lang
> 
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022, Dave Taht wrote:
> 
> >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:32:34 -0800
> >From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
> >To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >Subject: [Starlink] reverse engineering the starlink router
> >
> >Really good teardown and analysis here:
> >
> >https://olegkutkov.me/2021/12/25/analysis-and-reverse-engineering-of-the-original-starlink-router/
> >
> >According to his twitter feed, he's now deep into the dishy:
> >https://twitter.com/olegkutkov
> >
> >I really hope the original starlink router gets updated to a modern
> >openwrt. The offloads they presently use in that product are just not
> >needed at the speeds the dishy runs at and there are so many
> >advantages to that modern codebase.
> >
> >I did get a shot at the newer dishy and wifi router over the holiday
> >myself, (without, sigh, an ethernet port) but my primary interest is
> >merely in finding a way to effectively run fq-codel derived algos on
> >or near it and not have to tear it apart.
> >
> >
> >-- 
> >I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> >https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
> >
> >Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> >_______________________________________________
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> >Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink

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