From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.taht.net (mail.taht.net [176.58.107.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 172E03B29D for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 12:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.taht.net (Postfix, from userid 1013) id 3581222C06; Fri, 4 Mar 2022 17:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 17:08:11 +0000 From: Dave =?iso-8859-1?Q?T=E4ht?= To: Ulrich Speidel Cc: David Lang , Mike Puchol , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: <20220304170811.GA16708@mail.taht.net> References: <1646351242.121623495@apps.rackspace.com> <2b2f1808-8cf7-6eae-3157-a5fc554a2424@auckland.ac.nz> <03e73122-63c3-497b-82c6-b7b7f23b627a@Spark> <3ooo342q-s937-qq3-492q-723np793qoo@ynat.uz> <7ee92a7f-ae58-5090-8ee0-32df8ec29c2b@auckland.ac.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7ee92a7f-ae58-5090-8ee0-32df8ec29c2b@auckland.ac.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Digest, Vol 12, Issue 6 X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 17:08:12 -0000 Taking control of 1/3 the electrical power potentially disrupts most communication technologies. Distributed power collection and generation is also identifiable from above. There has been a very good discussion about preserving communications and infrastructure on the nanog mailing list, with among other things ripe and ICANNs refusal to disrupt the dns on behalf of any party. However the cloud providers and major companies are coming down hard against russia. These three aspects of a fresh war in europe I confess to not having thought about much before this week. A fourth is that I know very little about the other countries formerly of the USSR and their infrastructures and alignments, and have been trying to find out, as I think those are the major wild cards moving forward through this week.