From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from rellim.com (rellim.com [204.17.205.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 436283B29E for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 21:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spidey.rellim.com (rellim.com [IPv6:2001:470:e815::19]) by rellim.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 39860200006 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2022 18:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:59:57 -0700 From: "Gary E. Miller" To: Dave Taht via Starlink Message-ID: <20220713175957.5fc577a4@spidey.rellim.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20220713173602.0582c9b3@spidey.rellim.com> Organization: Rellim X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.1.0 (GTK 3.24.34; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/UFDwYkFC8pshK85Q7eyqLlE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Subject: Re: [Starlink] starlink at sea X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 01:00:05 -0000 --Sig_/UFDwYkFC8pshK85Q7eyqLlE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yo David! On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:40:38 -0700 (PDT) David Lang wrote: > it all depends on what you are comparing it to. This isn't designed > for a 30 ft boat, but rather for commercial operations. SpaceX had > talked about how this replaces the earlier satellite services they > have had on their boats that were unreliable and cost >$150k/month > with much better service listing for <$50k/month (for all their boats) Yes, it compares favorably to the existing alternatives. A mega-yauct owner would not notice the price. > This is designed to be an all-weather allways-on service, most > boaters could just use a standard starlink RV setup and put it out > when they need it (taking it down when the weather is poor) Excapt, Starlink will not let yuo use the RV roaming plan when offshore. The maritime plan explicitly covers open ocean. The RV plan hardly goes beyond the sight of land. I imagine the main driver of the high cost is the prolem in getting downlink stations between California and Hawaii, etc. This will be a real test of the sat to sat relaying. RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin --Sig_/UFDwYkFC8pshK85Q7eyqLlE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEDImNR/2vUKZZKLG0LmvF3i7oaj4FAmLPao4ACgkQLmvF3i7o aj4QQhAAn5RdLELtP+92n7GkhemIZbj+z1HrkUwCTLC7EcCaTIIOUc9/Bxtozlyq OcVOY8j0Yqvq/sE7K82jlQcLW3oS/Hlgy7FnuUB+2EMlfrk4hsCHRMvYYzuabKQj ic4646Y3ffMhRyE524Dk2Rrt4cuym67ZlAnvFBQ56iD4TmIjxg5bVoXGQIHRYEa8 4mHmfbUItwW3WytPRq3quQpolfN6w1sDXYHppHSX3oF5awzOED545oRw4b+r8ZWz /IEBY1BVkJwPn/48ZLdW0Igmc0YuUXAPFykDddRPrLeN1HwU14/c/1cYr0Hy1J4e CIMeC8QjmKQkiKaxxGsTLV+bTv8qUpNIJ27TzBERTKidNObCc2CtahgjxK4mH8hL 24Nj+/0dwfeyZMseXkVIVoQNtg6aNvzlInZ21Qm+64+mtnF+rn8W2Z3JtdKF/wLL D1P0lr7GXjVgbgy09pXCktGSYC4Ja7QcNDicLwSUnzwAsx4X+pIIMLTmKzpxUPeR j8kjfFyofmEAO7p9UpDd42waYgz6kF/Hkp3z5foFqFvJ+ldL7aea0JOfjTqYC+K5 5Fz3UMY94OWnMx5nPwH9w+GLAhV/dSkAO9tDheAIJgdYUMX4NXn2VE0QbWz1OMpK rdZ/SC62fT0mzjvMmIiie89bjtFGXaY5SYM16dUqRUpFReDVu4Y= =XNN1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/UFDwYkFC8pshK85Q7eyqLlE--