From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7D9C3B29D for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 33FNuFkc049510; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from starlink@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from starlink@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 33FNuD8m049509; Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:56:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from starlink) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202304152356.33FNuD8m049509@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: To: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 16:56:13 -0700 (PDT) CC: David Lang , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Dave Taht via Starlink X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [Starlink] fiber IXPs in space X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 23:56:22 -0000 > On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 12:36?PM David Lang wrote: > > > > On Fri, 14 Apr 2023, Rodney W. Grimes via Starlink wrote: > > > > >> I keep wondering when or if Nasa will find a way to move their DNS > > >> root server "up there" . DNS data is not all that much... it is the > > >> original distributed database... > > > > > > As others have pointed out a "root server" may not be very advantages, > > > but what I think would be far better is to put up a couple of anycast > > > recursive caching resolvers, aka 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 and almost anyone > > > can do that, including starlink itself. > > > > I believe that the root servers are all (or almost all) anycast nowdays. > > Anycast is perfect for an orbital DNS. BUTT, root servers are NOT recursive or caching, they serve a very small limitited set of data that changes at low frequency (I am not sure of the current rate of updates, but it use to be only once daily.) Anyone can bring up there own replicate of a root server locally, I do, and have for 2 decades, its a rather trivial thing to setup and maintain. But unlike a root, I also turn on recursision and caching. Again IMHO, a caching recursive any cast server ala 8.8.8.8 would be far more useful than just a stock "root server." > -- > AMA March 31: https://www.broadband.io/c/broadband-grant-events/dave-taht > Dave T?ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org