From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0ABC3B29D for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 16:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1137B1800D for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 17:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id nswIhuf8qZbb for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 17:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BDD1800C for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 17:00:34 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1665954034; bh=Vm1bq2sBGD9PqpQeDj0fixTBO+PQSXwqP8GKonEWAx8=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Kr/4d69VSao1GjH5JD1+QWCMYfwq8GR/BdnKgvM4MKn6WH/L9ZnbEaTS3edCZFCyo 9Wf6LBSQoBqweg409vNb+D8PdjJBZhPYQrMEd8OcbQtaZGO961Y+zSGwH4xuWRwoZh Ebalu82hykHgmHHVPR26GltjoXnzegbbZmMbm+WBBluv2umuD02QFfzyMo5gTaJLE5 Qfu4SXz6BCQybonfKmCYWKi+h4pTTYNnrCXz2b2EYxxhwV4XbBYelg1rRAmOFy81Hc /0wP4Ac/LyLCdkCPVoy6SDXwK1LVGlbyLc5moZgDuQPNzWGrXIUIelBNiCgVMBFclL znOYfeeBUYpPg== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE24A49 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 16:37:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Starlink list In-Reply-To: <79o05892-1pp0-q94r-1172-rr80r56o168n@ynat.uz> References: <8735bqpq1r.wl-jch@irif.fr> <38522124-6d3b-4ac8-bb20-92bfa35dc9fe@Spark> <87tu46o8e3.wl-jch@irif.fr> <3ea89257-d5f8-4fa9-a90a-c73d49d2a9e2@Spark> <87r0zao0f0.wl-jch@irif.fr> <398208s8-6080-r8q7-s6rs-q9np11428n3o@ynat.uz> <12bfd01d8e001$03cf0e40$0b6d2ac0$@evslin.com> <1ro0q1n3-s460-9r2r-p7rn-526q1qq9qp27@ynat.uz> <7AFAA1E1-B583-4A42-B188-6D80F9C2DDD5@gmx.de> <79o05892-1pp0-q94r-1172-rr80r56o168n@ynat.uz> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 27.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink no longer available to the Ukrainian army? X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:37:18 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Lang via Starlink wrote: > With Russia targeting infrastructure, how well is that going to be wo= rking? > between power outages and even a relatively small handful of exchange= s hit, I > wouldn't expect any wired infrastructure to be that reliable. https://ripe84.ripe.net/archives/video/738/ https://ripe84.ripe.net/archives/video/739/ https://nogalliance.org/our-task-forces/keep-ukraine-connected/ The most needed items have been fiber splicing units, and because there are few secure places to keep them in Ukraine, they have been trying to keep th= em in Poland. Last I heard that was a logistical challenge for the NOG Allian= ce. There have also been significant VAT problems with donations from outside t= he EU, even though they ultimate destination is outside the EU. =2D- Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 I=C3=B8T consulti= ng ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFKBAEBCgA0FiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmNMa3oWHG1jcitpZXRm QHNhbmRlbG1hbi5jYQAKCRCAi3D73dDdZU9nCACiWLXorYGH2LbBEkFjCpLDKX0Q 9RThsfy8GmSYi6FazN8sO5fjLjQK+JyHn8Pn66YG9rj8mFDb6bOQbVLKu1h4AkjY SM3/MscGa0szmzec3Nwpq56pWzc2lxj5fwV3A0/faXhjHZ/rANHqJHWf7nDhimW6 k2v2NSKKNSo7Y6cj44w+f64pKGypHXJgVMeD0DfKThj0BIKTDnVuHV0t1nh74YjG AdTokrT5rFwj0GijVKZM80xa7m2z+LegQ2CNX5d0yX3vZXEiin0Bg+kx87xZRVay qZoLT70+IXm3p+p+boERzZHpXwiUBL5vWcopCS1jwi2RhR5moV+ZIJ5T2bsY =GVtp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--