From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 699303B29D for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 10:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD4B389D8; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 10:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id W1-7LJhoKOGQ; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 10:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9550389DA; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 10:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E900B743; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 10:43:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Dave Taht , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: <85542036-9ff8-75d2-438e-c86cc0c105d8@sokolov.eu.org> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 19:35:07 -0400 Subject: Re: [Starlink] routing capability in starlinks X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 14:43:07 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave Taht wrote: > going village to village on the same sat would save a ton of backhaul > bandwidth and offer less latency for things like phone calls. The CGN > (dang it) looks doomed to backhaul somewhere, but perhaps the ipv6 > stuff? As well as resiliency, and perhaps legal protection against NSL. > I imagine they do it at the l2 protocol and program the next hop(s) on > the ground, but we do live in an age where everything is centralized "Simpler than IPv6" is all we ever got. I think that it's MPLS or SR6 based upon some commodity fabric, with SDN to create the paths. > (for those that don=E2=80=99t know, I=E2=80=99ve been working on dist= ance-vector > routing protocols for decades, most of my work on that front for the > last decade has been focused on making the babel routing protocol sca= le > better than bgp does for meshy links ) =2D- Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 I=C3=B8T consulti= ng ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmDcgvcACgkQgItw+93Q 3WW/ugf/Zv/TZWLxkTq+bX9lk7ijDnr7dhMrI/1Au4OEo2RlJY6bxghpx1TPFhUU jQJe56jToiGaFHNbjqHSzL2WXkspcbZeuvv9TvIyKX7M4KPg+c1oeccdlRcwxrEa lzVS0jgILiWNKs/EdGtIkqRIQCRSoqSOyFbtodfEqdrzjpF4qWsPmjRBPONo94Ml QIBYHk1KgJEMLPvf29mWy7FyRaJsp2d3UO9h6HdAbVfhk18IxRP/8cTWvM9xCeFX SWZbBMegtC4cCSFdAyDstm1vfCNzmNXz8GnaraWOghtYXQui1YNct8J+Bh+ZlKB2 8W3rVv4CXRUoaQJ3JlNMFg9xZrbATw== =00tx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--