From: Ulrich Speidel <u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz>
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: [Starlink] Re: Data centers are racing to space — and regulation can’t keep up
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 12:44:11 +1300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <22f8dfbf-c99d-4d9e-9962-e37851ee1d17@auckland.ac.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM0PR09MB2610D66D4C91368ED0C299CD8D72A@AM0PR09MB2610.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
On 27/02/2026 12:16 pm, Nitinder Mohan via Starlink wrote:
>> But when we're talking data centers, we're not talking downlinking to end users with Dishys. We're talking downlinking to other infrastructure.
> I dont fully agree with this. Unlike terrestrial DCs, which cannot connect to end-users primarily because they are installed “off-shore”, space-based DCs are likely just sats with more compute capacity and they should behave, operate and (transitively) connect with ground terminals with comm links. I don’t see any reason why they cannot connect directly with end-users (provided they both use Ku/other relevant band).
I don't think we're disagreeing here. When you connect directly to
Dishys from DC, which of course you can, then of course you're subject
to the downlink bottleneck that you pointed out earlier. That bottleneck
arises because you are bound by the user's location and need to downlink
rain or shine, which nails you down in Ku band.
It's just that when you connect a space-based DC that's part of an ISL
mesh to distributed ground infrastructure, then you have a planet full
of locations to connect to, any of which is suitable as long as there is
good weather there. You have the means to link there with ISLs, and
vastly more spectrum to up- or downlink in, including unlicensed
optical. So there's heaps of choice. On the ground, you simply forward
the data via fibre to where it actually needs to go.
I guess another question here is time horizon. Are we talking next year,
in five, in ten or twenty years?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-26 23:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-25 14:05 [Starlink] Data centers are racing to space — and regulation can’t keep up Hesham ElBakoury
2026-02-25 14:30 ` [Starlink] " David Collier-Brown
2026-02-25 14:32 ` [Starlink] Re: Data centers are racing to space ??? and regulation can???t " Gert Doering
2026-02-25 14:42 ` [Starlink] Re: Data centers are racing to space — and regulation can’t " Hesham ElBakoury
2026-02-26 4:28 ` J Pan
[not found] ` <CAFvDQ9p68AFJ5cQTpyx=HkA2Cf6r1m6F3ssaJh-OJK4kqK=PDQ@mail.gmail.com>
2026-02-26 5:54 ` J Pan
2026-02-26 6:01 ` Hesham ElBakoury
2026-02-25 14:50 ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2026-02-26 1:33 ` David Lang
2026-02-26 2:38 ` Nick Matthews
2026-02-26 4:39 ` David Lang
2026-02-26 11:54 ` Mark Handley
2026-02-26 13:36 ` Vint Cerf
2026-02-26 13:56 ` Nitinder Mohan
2026-02-26 21:36 ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-02-26 23:02 ` Brandon Butterworth
2026-02-26 23:16 ` Nitinder Mohan
2026-02-26 23:44 ` Ulrich Speidel [this message]
2026-02-27 1:01 ` Joe Hamelin
2026-02-27 1:47 ` David Lang
2026-02-27 14:26 ` [Starlink] Why Data Centers In Space Won't Work [Yet] (A non-canonical list) Sascha Meinrath
2026-02-27 15:07 ` [Starlink] " David Lang
2026-02-27 15:15 ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2026-02-27 15:22 ` Gert Doering
2026-02-26 14:14 ` [Starlink] Re: Data centers are racing to space — and regulation can’t keep up Mark Handley
2026-02-26 18:01 ` David Lang
2026-02-25 20:26 ` Brandon Butterworth
2026-02-26 1:28 ` David Lang
2026-02-26 4:49 ` David Lang
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