From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD3973B2A4 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5985389B5 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 6EWJRCSzMPM3 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C902B389B1 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83323FC for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:31:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Starlink] congestion control info off the datapath X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:31:59 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable < Please? newer folk here, please briefly introduce yourselves and your < interests in starlink's stuff? I live in downtown Ottawa, and I have VDSL2 (because the other options have no IPv6, and are massively bufferbloated). But, my relatives choose to live in partially off the grid (at the edge of the grid?), eat "organic" and drive hundreds of kilometers a week for work. (I walk to the store, am mostly car-free, and think vegetables that consume huge amounts of CO2 to get to me can never be more healthy for the planet). I care about Starlink because it might let my relatives stop driving, and because it likely will give the Canadian bufferbloated duopoly a seriou= s challenge. But, it's gotta be real terminal-to-terminal, or it will just result in more "bent fiber" pervasive attacks . =2D- Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 I=C3=B8T consulti= ng ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmEDHkoACgkQgItw+93Q 3WUmlwf8Dhjyo1jjiuob4cDgViDl7NDza0wlsHDgSmCIvZzEStDvdELCXF5HzNRG Mux9nIa/59gZLIALdW3xFtr2JOFFiBGO9Z48qrv2TAcF7zD0pLIrP+JiUTcI92T5 OtQd9EfzO/2/I4rCOaEaXEQERxb9yBRCTw8rbK1l0MX8LcbejXJpcRFYZywjN/pM l8dYIOgwqQ+xxWNSvRL+t1wXIux/FEWXzjxvPDQ+/MvDDq5MQDcR+5ISZ5rMF0fT ZfIXypA0RdaQP+m7b2qSZj7Ff+056knn/NXt695fEbPCwZoeeEDdSsZpVdQIndN0 tdlkQAzDVMyT0BTjETZel+mDsPXQXQ== =ybuT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--