From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB5F93B2A4 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0387438994; Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8lHENc5VYxL0; Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2:40a:34ff:fe10:f571]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1FC38993; Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:52:16 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1681948336; bh=YmAOikXyaP9xz9yaxrRplFJYjXFKE+xoVloz6SB9hfY=; h=From:to:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=a2L7z0omn+E4FvTJmFsNM1FeJ8q/UhGlRWoU23VecBVkS6pnOcKmOqaL9dZxPFdut cv/ASnWsipVO1wtiNo5SEcTMwunbm5aG7ofvpZVphxUXsWn0jrDpCdWqqn9NTiHZvd u7X38WP+RnCZwjahc7o8fDd+E1LHte0OqB1x+b3HFtK03F1GKeFM9lKi0wd+mZtecI Mo9qcN8yNJLglvaFPbHwO0HrUI3RDsBUg+6xYm6JhgQilOk4iX29W+ibIikhy/uZYD hf65tDrXkMe0GCpztuA7ttucIFidK8QotRaP3c+UYN16N7H4pPd1GszwidXwAn9dXE MYbhMqBSaVIGw== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0708860A; Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:34:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson to: starlink , e-impact@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <8151.1681416108@localhost> References: <1272.1681406523@localhost> <8151.1681416108@localhost> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 27.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: [Starlink] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space) X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 23:34:47 -0000 I saw this reported in BIS-Spaceflight. (I'm usually a few months behind in reading it) I like the "first objective"! https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/space/press-release/ascend-thales-= alenia-space-lead-european-feasibility-study-data Cannes, November 14, 2022 =E2=80=93 Thales Alenia Space, the joint company = between Thales (67%) and Leonardo (33%), has been chosen by the European Commission to lead the ASCEND (Advanced Space Cloud for European Net zero emission and Data sovereignty) feasibility study for data centers in orbit, as part of Europe=E2=80=99s vast Horizon Europe research program. Digital technology=E2=80=99s expanding environmental footprint is becoming = a major challenge: the burgeoning need for digitalization means that data centers in Europe and around the world are growing at an exponential pace, which in tu= rn has a critical energy and environmental impact. The first objective of this study will be to assess if the carbon emissions from the production and launch of these space infrastructures will be significantly lower than the emissions generated by ground-based data centers, therefore contributing to the achievement of global carbon neutrality. The second objective will be to prove that it is possible to develop the required launch solution and to ensure the deployment and operability of these spaceborne data centers using robotic assistance technologies currently being developed in Europe, such as the EROSS IOD demonstrator. This project is expected to demonstrate to which extent space-based data centers would limit the energy and environmental impact of their ground counterparts, thus allowing major investments within the scope of Europe=E2= =80=99s Green Deal, possibly justifying the development of a more climate-friendly, reusable heavy launch vehicle. Europe could thus regain its leadership in space transport and space logistics, as well as the assembly and operations of large infrastructures in orbit.