Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad.
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From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
To: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>, "Livingood\,
	Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>,
	"starlink\@lists.bufferbloat.net"
	<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] something of a step backwards
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 17:36:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24348.1637015766@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1637001937.876717373@apps.rackspace.com>

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David P. Reed <dpreed@deepplum.com> wrote:
    > The mechanism for MITM'ing HTTPS connections is well known. I don't
    > intend to detail it here, but it is based on the fact that certs aren't
    > properly validated by client-end software and server-end software.

No, this is just not the case.
While there are occasionally issues that affect some strange corner case,
there are no issues in browsers available on any platforms I know of.

It can only be done in Enterprise cases where the Enterprise uses a
management system to push new anchors.  That part is "well-known".

As for blaming protocols when the fault is bufferbloat, you are definitely
right on.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-15 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.5.1636650001.22273.starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2021-11-11 18:30 ` David P. Reed
2021-11-15 14:21   ` Livingood, Jason
2021-11-15 18:45     ` David P. Reed
2021-11-15 22:36       ` Michael Richardson [this message]
2021-11-11 15:53 Dave Taht
2021-11-11 15:54 ` Nathan Owens
2021-11-11 18:14   ` Jonathan Bennett

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