From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lang.hm; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from mail.lang.hm (wsip-70-167-213-146.ph.ph.cox.net [70.167.213.146]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77BE2728AD4 for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2025 01:05:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.2.2.53] (unknown [10.2.2.53]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9909220AEB4; Wed, 1 Oct 2025 16:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 16:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: Spencer Sevilla cc: David Lang , Dave Taht via Starlink , "Livingood, Jason" , Frantisek Borsik In-Reply-To: <853161C6-6C99-47BF-B0BB-AA8D9BAD512F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2518qp9p-1qrp-p185-1os8-qpo57s3s2n0q@ynat.uz> References: <853161C6-6C99-47BF-B0BB-AA8D9BAD512F@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID-Hash: LPZJRMTDLWWE5OTH45QZ6SZPXNADDFAU X-Message-ID-Hash: LPZJRMTDLWWE5OTH45QZ6SZPXNADDFAU X-MailFrom: david@lang.hm X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Lost in Space: The Limits of Geolocation in a Satellite-Connected World (new article from Geoff Huston) List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Spencer Sevilla wrote: > I could certainly see some use for IP-based geolocation going forward, less as > a concrete primary source and more as a cross-check on other location-based > tools for e.g. security purposes. between VPNs and just incomplete data in the geoip databases, it's questionable how useful this is as a security source (it's not worthless, but it's not worth a lot) see the poor farm in Kansas that gets all the attention from geoip based responses where only the country is known. David Lang