From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC4B23CB37 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 11:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DAB3898F for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 11:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id JBqdRkGajAFJ for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 11:34:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2:40a:34ff:fe10:f571]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6F13898E for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 11:34:09 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1682350449; bh=JuNXFMLGFhwEDJ8JqLuwE0ustlfsYG00r4kUQV15VPM=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=rsOvxvmF4aAvO8XwQlkfuTjMufKEkQXHRuobwhoqJWeevcgV3Ok1GA3z1rkXEJ2xs 4NEZSs0NVHaHRhdevbbAAMzgu4d1Y5k56l73qvfuWQa9D37jnt6p2ClWsYM4cW8tPF P03Ax7jTiCsLMI05CHmeTZHnKfDYCq8c1RS9vJZITtRhIrYoTn1tQjc+QLSxWaW75J XXxunP1ZLmjcT9ZaFdovW6xlueZWVEemhcqKmRBs4A1jy1SOROSX3D2SiZ9BiM7111 cMSlooFxl9FLIq77J/I7/LYg+8tDEGLRV2Facz9j2FYVqeOkjs02kFTIaOxjf0u908 1o3ZweMsY6y/g== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D052C182 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2023 11:16:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 27.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 11:16:21 -0400 Message-ID: <26657.1682349381@localhost> Subject: Re: [Starlink] some post Starship launch thoughts X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 15:16:24 -0000 Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > Everyone wants a water deluge system and flame diverter, but I was > thinking perhaps liquid nitrogen, as a natural byproduct of LOX Yeah, but how do you put one on the moon or mars? Lower gravity helps, sure, ... > Landing and then taking off from the moon or mars look rather > problematic at the moment! Do the rockets do the swoop and flip on mars and the moon? This part I just don't understand. (But then, the entire mars mission is fraught with dozens of missing things, starting with radiation shielding) -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [