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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>,
	"starlink\@lists.bufferbloat.net"
	<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Bloat] Of interest: Comcast AQM Paper
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 09:13:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27719.1627823605@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADVnQyk+DnCootU9bOZhX9PS2tAqXDc+wZB4djr6rQTVAcMm-Q@mail.gmail.com>

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Neal Cardwell via Bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
    > On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 3:27 PM Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> If we see that AQM appears to be not functioning as expected
    >> for upstream connections on DOCSIS3.1, what's the right avenue
    >> for getting that resolved?  (and does that only apply to the
    >> Comcast-owned, vs. customer-owned, modems?)

    > FWIW, from the paper it sounds like not all Comcast cable modems
    > had/have PIE, which enabled the A/B experiment:

This does bring up an interesting discovery question:

the presences of AQM (whether PIE or FQ_CODEL), and what the settings might
be (for some things need to be tuned), would be something that might be
interested to emit via LLDP.
And/or at a /.well-known URL (accessible via IPv6-LL only).

--
Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
           Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide





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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-01 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-30 21:28 [Starlink] " Livingood, Jason
2021-07-31 17:50 ` [Starlink] [Bloat] " Simon Barber
2021-07-31 19:26   ` Aaron Wood
2021-07-31 22:55     ` Neal Cardwell
2021-08-01 13:13       ` Michael Richardson [this message]
2021-08-01 20:20 Livingood, Jason
2021-08-01 21:39 ` Dick Roy
2021-08-04 11:49   ` Jonathan Morton
2021-08-04 12:46     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2021-08-04 13:03       ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-08-04 13:06         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2021-08-04 13:43           ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-08-04 18:28             ` Jonathan Morton
2021-08-04 20:44               ` David Lang
2021-08-04 20:51               ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-08-04 18:31           ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2021-08-04 18:58             ` Jonathan Morton
2021-08-04 20:08               ` Jonathan Bennett
2021-08-04 20:18                 ` Nathan Owens
2021-08-04 20:46                   ` Jonathan Bennett
2021-08-05  0:24                     ` Michael Richardson
2021-08-05 15:11                       ` Frank Carmickle
2021-08-07 23:59                         ` Michael Richardson
2021-08-07 20:31   ` Dave Taht
2021-08-01 20:21 Livingood, Jason

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