From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.onholyground.com (mail.onholyground.com [204.130.133.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D22463CB37 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2021 21:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (castleinthewoods.onholyground.com [204.130.133.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.onholyground.com (8.14.9/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 1A51UL1D027771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Nov 2021 20:30:21 -0500 From: Darrell Budic Message-Id: <2D5010E2-E6CA-4D73-AF20-BDC61A5B63DF@onholyground.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1B8EBCE1-C6A5-4FC3-B649-4D3409801712" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 20:30:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net To: Dave Taht References: <7907F9D1-9511-4254-BD8F-701888EB6778@onholyground.com>

X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (mail.onholyground.com [204.130.133.20]); Thu, 04 Nov 2021 20:30:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checked: This message probably not SPAM (-2.955) X-Spam-Tests: ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE,TXREP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink tidbits from NANOG X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2021 01:30:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1B8EBCE1-C6A5-4FC3-B649-4D3409801712 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Nov 4, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 9:46 AM Dave Taht > wrote: >>=20 >> I have an ipv4/23 lying around since the 90s. I don't want to sell = it, >> but my co-owner and I would really like a dishy and a static = IPv4/IPv6 >> address... and service for life... and whatever else we could >> negotiate. :) >=20 > Perhaps 2 zeroth addresses in exchange, also. Getting 0 back is order > millions more real ipv4s for the world. code's in linux and bsd now. >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-schoen-intarea-lowest-address-00.txt = >=20 > (there's a preso nov 9th in intarea on this) >=20 Haha, well, with v4 addresses now going for > $50 each, in the usual = blocks of 256, it might be a fair trade. If you want a static, I can tunnel you one for while=E2=80=A6 Works = better the closer you are to Chicago, but I=E2=80=99m well connected = there. Although at ARIN 48 after NANOG, NIST laid out the details of the = ongoing federal government push to IPv6-ONLY networking, with an 80% = complete target by 2025. I expect we will see v6 pick up some steam over = the next few years. --Apple-Mail=_1B8EBCE1-C6A5-4FC3-B649-4D3409801712 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On Nov 4, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>= wrote:

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 9:46 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

I have an ipv4/23 lying around since the 90s. I don't want to = sell it,
but my co-owner and I would really like a dishy = and a static IPv4/IPv6
address... and service for life... = and whatever else we could
negotiate. :)

Perhaps 2 zeroth addresses in exchange, also. Getting 0 back = is order
millions more real ipv4s for the world. code's in linux and = bsd now.

https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-schoen-intarea-lowest-address-0= 0.txt

(there's a preso nov 9th in intarea on this)

Haha, well, with v4 addresses now going for > = $50 each, in the usual blocks of 256, it might be a fair = trade.

If you want a static, I can = tunnel you one for while=E2=80=A6 Works better the closer you are to = Chicago, but I=E2=80=99m well connected there.

Although at ARIN 48 after NANOG, NIST laid out the = details of the ongoing federal government push to IPv6-ONLY networking, = with an 80% complete target by 2025. I expect we will see v6 pick up = some steam over the next few years.

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