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[184.162.124.161]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v18-20020a0cdd92000000b006360931c12fsm38581qvk.96.2023.09.13.14.32.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Sep 2023 14:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Blanchet Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_246059DB-4588-4D41-9698-B47C24D79475" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.700.6\)) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 17:32:30 -0400 References: To: Starlink In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2EF2918E-0276-47AA-A0B0-226E6B6748B4@viagenie.ca> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) Subject: Re: [Starlink] SpaceX no longer taking losses to produce Starlink satellite antennas, a key step to improving profitability X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 21:32:43 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_246059DB-4588-4D41-9698-B47C24D79475 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 My take is that the comment from the VP was =E2=80=9Cgeneric=E2=80=9D: = ie. overall, the profit from selling the terminals was negative but now = it is positive, on total. Local prices, discounts, =E2=80=A6 are taken = into account in the comment I guess. Marc. > Le 13 sept. 2023 =C3=A0 17:28, Larry Press via Starlink = a =C3=A9crit : >=20 > The US price is $599, but the price varies from country to country. = They sell for as low as $117.84: > = https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1tuhyh6kbyDQ2D418ug_AgS1ZM_8MDD= znrjWzDthU61w/htmlview#gid=3D0 >=20 > Elon Musk said the prices would be uniform throughout the world = originally, but affordability-based pricing was inevitable: > = https://circleid.com/posts/20220906-spacex-introduces-affordability-based-= starlink-pricing >=20 > From: Starlink > on behalf of the = keyboard of geoff goodfellow via Starlink = > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:04 AM > To: Starlink > > Subject: [Starlink] SpaceX no longer taking losses to produce Starlink = satellite antennas, a key step to improving profitability > =20 > SpaceX is no longer absorbing the cost of the Starlink antennas that = it sells with its satellite internet service, a company executive said = on Wednesday. > =E2=80=9CWe were subsidizing terminals but we=E2=80=99ve been = iterating on our terminal production so much that we=E2=80=99re no = longer subsidizing terminals, which is a good place to be,=E2=80=9D = Jonathan Hofeller, SpaceX vice president of Starlink and commercial = sales, said during a panel at the World Satellite Business Week = conference. > [...] > = https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/13/spacex-no-longer-taking-losses-to-produce-= starlink-satellite-antennas.html = >=20 > --=20 > Geoff.Goodfellow@iconia.com > living as The Truth is True >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --Apple-Mail=_246059DB-4588-4D41-9698-B47C24D79475 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 My take is = that the comment from the VP was =E2=80=9Cgeneric=E2=80=9D: ie. overall, = the profit from selling the terminals was negative but now it is = positive, on total. Local prices, discounts, =E2=80=A6 are taken into = account in the comment I = guess.

Marc.

Le 13 sept. 2023 =C3=A0 17:28, Larry Press via = Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> a =C3=A9crit :

The US price is $599, but the price varies = from country to country. They sell for as low as $117.84:
https://docs.google.com/spreadshee= ts/u/0/d/1tuhyh6kbyDQ2D418ug_AgS1ZM_8MDDznrjWzDthU61w/htmlview#gid=3D0=

Elon Musk said the prices would be uniform = throughout the world originally, but affordability-based pricing was = inevitable:
https://circleid.com/posts/20220906-spacex-intro= duces-affordability-based-starlink-pricing

From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@li= sts.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of the keyboard of geoff = goodfellow via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.= net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, = 2023 10:04 AM
To: Starlink <Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.= net>
Subject: [Starlink] SpaceX no longer = taking losses to produce Starlink satellite antennas, a key step to = improving profitability
 
  • SpaceX is no longer = absorbing the cost of the Starlink antennas that it sells with its = satellite internet service, a company executive said on = Wednesday.
  • =E2=80=9CWe were subsidizing terminals but we=E2=80=99v= e been iterating on our terminal production so much that we=E2=80=99re = no longer subsidizing terminals, which is a good place to be,=E2=80=9D = Jonathan Hofeller, SpaceX vice president of Starlink and commercial = sales, said during a panel at the World Satellite Business Week = conference.
[...]
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/13/spacex-no-longer= -taking-losses-to-produce-starlink-satellite-antennas.html

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