From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 128F63CB37; Mon, 20 Mar 2023 18:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) by bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2A4241B25F; Mon, 20 Mar 2023 15:02:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bobcat.rjmcmahon.com 2A4241B25F DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rjmcmahon.com; s=bobcat; t=1679349777; bh=z4f7iHh0XgHYj09l4GQ4d+mtheMKhi7DtOf0MTSMWtU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=YkCaRvRlyZiMcytVBIDZR9f5hpylxkXUW8J4trhwEa88dx2zqNe1rKQi0u2qERm42 G6DQqOwwftDfZez1BCzMiiFmpE/Rlq+//Z3fxcJVykkBozugqZwkacGn6RiMHFGm5B yYkSmGdjk07uWNQBSpXPBvdhWROcDcbo1nRbowqo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 15:02:57 -0700 From: rjmcmahon To: Frantisek Borsik Cc: dan , Rpm , libreqos , Dave Taht via Starlink , bloat , Michael Richardson In-Reply-To: References: <1672786712.106922180@apps.rackspace.com> <77CCAD19-07E0-4F9E-88C1-D207CF7BF376@cable.comcast.com> <83ffc0dad19e3343e49271889369cefc@rjmcmahon.com> <3CD0B9E6-0B2A-4A70-8F53-ED0822DF77A6@gmx.de> <13DE6E53-665F-4C20-BBE2-70E685421E9D@gmx.de> <22C819FA-DDD7-4B9B-8C09-8008D4273287@gmx.de> <5e7fac51071bdbb20837e72e7eedfc7c@rjmcmahon.com> <3f45d2a0b6e46d7b2775fb801e805f93@rjmcmahon.com> <70F71290-C6CB-4D19-8A88-F0F17C0BDDA2@gmx.de> <5e0cd693c4749d128dbb48d6c1129071@rjmcmahon.com> <2ab2983d-6beb-49cb-8c35-e481cbfdc7a3@Spark> <8F56CCA3-61C4-475F-975D-99D851C6A7CF@gmx.de> <1d6c10c9a692bb3f2869fb1b40fa449a@rjmcmahon.com> <005d1e7e3e1d19bce308436e46a3ec5e@rjmcmahon.com> <569691b3e7dfc57bbf98c4fc168fc6cf@rjmcmahon.com> <2885829.1679221616@dyas> Message-ID: <2ce5ab82f29756bd1bc22cde9eb8fc69@rjmcmahon.com> X-Sender: rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Starlink] On FiWi power envelope X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 22:02:58 -0000 If I'm reading things correctly, the per fire alarm power rating is 120V at 80 mA or 9.6 W. The per power FiWi transceiver estimate is 2 Watts per spatial stream at 160MhZ and 1 Watt for the fiber. Looks like a retrofit of a fire alarm system would have sufficient power for FiWi radio heads. Then it's punching a few holes, run fiber, splice, patch & paint which is very straightforward work for the trades. Rich people as early adopters could show off their infinitely capable in-home network. Installers could do a two-for deal, buy one and I'll install another in a less fortunate community. https://www.thespruce.com/install-hardwired-smoke-detectors-1152329 Sharktank passed on the Ring deal - imagine having a real, life-support capable, & future-proof network vs just a silly doorbell w/camera. Bob