From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lang.hm; dkim=fail; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=none Received: from mail.lang.hm (wsip-70-167-213-146.ph.ph.cox.net [70.167.213.146]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 480A612A7188 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2026 09:51:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.2.3.133] (unknown [10.2.3.133]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F628229D78; Tue, 30 Jun 2026 00:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 00:51:39 -0700 (MST) From: David Lang To: joe@hamelin.us cc: David Lang , Frantisek Borsik , Hesham ElBakoury , 5grm-satellite@ieee.org, Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2n1s314p-768o-q2n1-0nn9-7q1n37rr60r2@ynat.uz> References: <1ns7n619-n244-o592-91q3-38qn9qo4qn55@ynat.uz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID-Hash: TJ6CRDZXLM2NORI22RTBQVHADESEQSXK X-Message-ID-Hash: TJ6CRDZXLM2NORI22RTBQVHADESEQSXK X-MailFrom: david@lang.hm X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 3.3.10 X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] Re: Ambani Launches 15 Billion Dollars Space War Against Starlink List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sm9lIEhhbWVsaW4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gT24gU3VuLCBKdW4gMjEsIDIwMjYgYXQgMTI6NTXigK9Q TSBEYXZpZCBMYW5nIHZpYSBTdGFybGluayA8DQo+IHN0YXJsaW5rQGxpc3RzLmJ1ZmZlcmJsb2F0 Lm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6DQo+DQo+Pg0KPj4gSSB0aGluayBpdCBpcyBnb2luZyB0byBkZXBlbmQgYSBs b3Qgb24gd2hvIHRoZWlyIGxhdW5jaCBwcm92aWRlciBpcyBhbmQgd2hvIA0KPj4gdGhlaXIgc2F0 ZWxsaXRlIG1hbnVmYWN0dXJlciBpcy4NCj4+DQo+DQo+IEFyaWFuZXNwYWNlIChhIEpWIG9mIG15 IGNvbXBhbnkgYW5kIEFpcmJ1cykganVzdCBsYXVuY2hlZCAzNiBMZW8gc2F0cyBsYXN0DQo+IHdl ZWsuDQoNCk15IHBvaW50IGlzIHRoYXQgU3BhY2VYIGNvbXBldGl0b3JzIGFyZSBwYXlpbmcgMy00 eCBhcyBtdWNoIGZvciBsYXVuY2ggc2VydmljZXMgDQooU3BhY2VYIGxpc3QgcHJpY2VzIGFyZSBu b3RpY2FibHkgbG93ZXIgdGhhbiBhbnkgY29tcGV0aXRvciwgYW5kIHRoZWlyIGxhdW5jaCANCmNv c3RzIGFyZSAxLzQgdG8gMS8zIHRoZWlyIGxpc3QgcHJpY2VzKQ0KDQpBbmQgaWYgdGhlIHNhdGVs bGl0ZXMgYXJlIGJ1aWxkIHRoZSB0cmFkaXRpb25hbCB3YXksIHRoZXkgd2lsbCBjb3N0IG1hbnkg dGltZXMgDQp3aGF0IHN0YXJsaW5rIHNhdGVsbGl0ZXMgZG8gYXMgd2VsbC4NCg0Kc28gaWYgeW91 ciBjb3N0cyB0byBnZXQgaW50byBvcmJpdCBhcmUgfjR4IGhpZ2hlciBmb3IgYSBzaW1pbGFyIGNh cGFjaXR5IA0Kc2F0ZWxsaXRlLCB5b3UgYXJlIGdvaW5nIHRvIGhhdmUgYSB2ZXJ5IGhhcmQgdGlt ZSBiZWluZyBjb21wZXRpdGl2ZS4NCg0KdGhlIHNhdGVsbGl0ZSBpbmR1c3RyeSBnb3QgaW50byB0 aGUgaGFiaXQgb2YgdGhpbmtpbmcgImxhdW5jaCBpcyBleHBlbnNpdmUsIHRoZSANCmNvc3Qgb2Yg dGhlIHNhdGVsbGl0ZSBpcyB0cml2aWFsIGluIGNvbXBhcmlzb24sIHNvIHdlIGNhbiBtYWtlIHRo ZSBzYXRlbGxpdGUgDQptb3JlIGV4cGVuc2l2ZSB0byB0cnkgYW5kIGFkZCB0byB0aGUgcmVsaWFi aWxpdHkiIGFuZCAic2F0ZWxsaXRlcyBhcmUgcmVhbGx5IA0KZXhwZW5zaXZlLCBzbyB0aGUgbGF1 bmNoIGNvc3RzIGRvbid0IG1hdHRlciBtdWNoIi4gSXQgdG9vayBFbG9uIGZpcmluZyB0aGUgDQpT dGFybGluayBzYXRlbGxpdGUgY29uc3RydWN0aW9uIG1hbmFnZW1lbnQgdG8gYnJlYWsgdGhlIHRl YW0gb3V0IG9mIHRoYXQgDQptaW5kc2V0LCBoYXZlIHRoZXNlIG90aGVyIGNvbXBhbmllcyBsZWFy bmVkIHRoZSBsZXNzb24/IG9yIGFyZSB0aGV5IGdvaW5nIHRvIA0KY29udGludWUgdGhlIG9sZCB3 YXlzPw0KDQpJIGNhbiBzYXkgdGhhdCB0aGUgZmFjdCB0aGF0IHRoZXkgYWxsIGFyZSBidWlsZGlu ZyB0cmFkaXRpb25hbGx5IHNoYXBlZCANCnNhdGVsbGl0ZXMgdGhhdCBhcmUgZGVwbG95ZWQgb25l IG9yIHR3byBhdCBhIHRpbWUgZnJvbSBhIGNlbnRyYWwgdG93ZXIgKHdhc3RlZCANCm1hc3MgYW5k IHNwYWNlKSB3aXRoIGVhY2ggc2F0ZWxsaXRlIG5lZWRpbmcgaXQncyBvd24gZGVwbG95bWVudCBt ZWNoYW5pc20gKG1vcmUgDQpjb21wbGV4aXR5IGFuZCB3YXN0ZWQgbWFzcykgdnMgdGhlIHN0YXJs aW5rIGZsYXQtcGFjay9zcGluLWFuZC1yZWxlYXNlIG9yIA0Kc3RhcnNoaXAgcGV6LWRpc3BlbnNv ciBhcHByb2FjaGVzIGRvZXMgbm90IGdpdmUgbWUgYW55IHJlYXNvbiB0byBiZWxpZXZlIHRoYXQg DQp0aGV5IGhhdmUgbGVhcm5lZCB0aGUgJ2NhdHRsZSBub3QgcGV0cycgYXBwcm9hY2ggdG8gc2F0 ZWxsaXRlIHNlcnZpY2VzLg0KDQpJdCdzIHBvc3NpYmxlIHRoYXQgc29tZSBoYXZlLCBidXQgSSBk b24ndCBzZWUgaXQgeWV0Lg0KDQpEYXZpZCBMYW5n