From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 223183CB37 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2022 18:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.2.70]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204D41456AA; Tue, 30 Aug 2022 15:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 15:21:50 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: Brandon Butterworth cc: David Lang , "David P. Reed" , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <20220830220710.GA2653@sunf10.rd.bbc.co.uk> Message-ID: <356psp-6n4s-5677-2qs9-1r71r492no@ynat.uz> References: <1661878433.14064713@apps.rackspace.com> <6p5n9262-3745-pq31-5636-1rnon987o255@ynat.uz> <20220830220710.GA2653@sunf10.rd.bbc.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "beam spread" X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:21:51 -0000 On Tue, 30 Aug 2022, Brandon Butterworth wrote: > On Tue Aug 30, 2022 at 02:01:49PM -0700, David Lang via Starlink wrote: >> You are absolutly correct that people who can get fiber (and probably even >> most DSL) are far better using that than Starlink, and >> last-few-hundred-meters wireless can be better (like DSL, it depends on the >> exact service available) > ... >> People who can get that sort of service are not the target users for >> Starlink. > > But unless Starlink turn them away some will still take the > service despite better options. Sure, and I am one of them. (I have cable service Internet available), but if people are picking something in spite of 'better' service being available, is it really 'better' for that person, or is it only 'better' on paper? Why should you argue with people who make that decision? I actually have both cable service and starlink, I make my living by working remotely, and it's worth it to me to have a backup Internet service available (and I don't have fiber availale here in the middle of a city in Southern California, and the best DSL at my location is 8/1 @$150/month for a dual-dedicated line) David Lang