On Jun 21, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 8:47 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 8:06 AM Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote:
Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:It came up recently that a lot of folk don't like the idea of dropping
packets as a congestion
control mechanism. Like loss or not... the fundamental paper on this
subject is Van Jacobson and Mike Karels:"On congestion avoidance and control"http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs244/papers/CongestionControl.pdf
I saved this post a long time ago.
http://www.sandelman.ca/mcr/humour/vanj-enet-posting.txt
From that piece:
"funding agents looking for high speed,
next-generation networks may forget that research to make slow
things go fast sometimes makes fast things go faster".
Recently I dusted off fq_codel_fast in light of the cache misses
finally showing up
in a 100gbit dual bonded scenario over here:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/commit/?id=848ca9182a7d25bb54955c3aab9a3a2742bf9678
asked the author to give it a try.That was a *great* piece of history thx. And he referenced greg
chesson's work on XTP,
( https://grainger.illinois.edu/alumni/distinguished/9560 )
Greg was an early consultant to the bufferbloat project...
he sadly passed before we ever had a chance to jam together.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9795462There is another one about how he crashed Interop, which I don't know where I
put.
More folk should have seen van's codel preso at ietf 84. It was the
very very early days of webrtc.
https://archive.org/details/video1_20191129
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