From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from vsmx002.dclux.xion.oxcs.net (vsmx002.dclux.xion.oxcs.net [185.74.65.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03B253CB38 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2022 16:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from proxy-2.proxy.oxio.ns.xion.oxcs.net (proxy-2.proxy.oxio.ns.xion.oxcs.net [83.61.18.4]) by mx-out.dclux.xion.oxcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CE2788C5D64 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2022 20:40:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=dclux.xion.oxcs.net; s=mail1; t=1661892033; bh=Zy/78yCe4b6nBGvvRiuvT367SIEy/XqV7peJ6KFaBhQ=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From; b=UI2JZr2qDKVqviW67MjYZ4xXk1cMQh4XBXgLNamZFOT27xLytlYJwtiz4T8df3gSJ cJonl1k4crK07zsMKYQ9shI8TtIn4ywK53VyebxiTBlNgoHSDRxWWnbGbTV24OAGWF 7XdOgMtED7Gk73eWej6NY/ry1y+7WzYHXxsH3wy9L2IBq5oMPa05AvBveUEOBvMg5D 9Xd7DaxZFOcA7FfS3PWC9biXz+J9VaPj+NWNZNxXMOO1TqjG7i+zEAd2Tj8wBGGPPr hUdJWKxMEQ+67hUjXo5beyyrM1h9wheI7pH2ibh+8yCGUevz3SNjzEeh64XXn3FH/+ xXHPfG31jJdTw== Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:40:25 +0200 From: Mike Puchol To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: <39e958c0-29db-4cd7-bb23-b009d00932af@Spark> In-Reply-To: <7d3c5d28-fd21-5bf1-361a-67f0b54d625f@falco.ca> References: <1661878433.14064713@apps.rackspace.com> <7b7bff13-b0ef-41ad-9a40-d12bfe5a0dfe@Spark> <7d3c5d28-fd21-5bf1-361a-67f0b54d625f@falco.ca> X-Readdle-Message-ID: 39e958c0-29db-4cd7-bb23-b009d00932af@Spark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="630e75bf_1fbfe8e0_2eb" X-VadeSecure-Status: LEGIT X-VADE-STATUS: LEGIT Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink "beam spread" X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 20:40:34 -0000 --630e75bf_1fbfe8e0_2eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Indeed, and that=E2=80=99s why I said you need to start getting creative.= If I can get a terminal that supplies 150 Mbps, I can provision 1.5 Mbps = per customer to 100 customers. I can get a cheap OLT and run no more than= 500 meters of EPON (cheaper than GPON) from the Starlink terminal, using= splitters along the way, thus minimize risk of breaks and cuts. An EPON = OLT supports 64 ONUs per port, so my cost is about =24400 plus two S=46Ps= at =2450, total central CAPEX per customer =245. I amortize that with on= e month of service fee at =245... I won=E2=80=99t do the full breakdown but you should get the idea :-) Best, Mike On Aug 30, 2022, 22:36 +0200, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink , wrote: > On 2022-08-30 at 13:09, Mike Puchol via Starlink wrote: > > People who have a disposable income of =241 to =245 per month just ca= nnot > > be serviced by a financially viable service that relies on fiber. > > Here, you need to start getting creative. > > Indeed, but they can't afford Starlink either. > Daniel > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > Starlink mailing list > Starlink=40lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --630e75bf_1fbfe8e0_2eb Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Indeed, and that=E2=80=99s why I said you need to s= tart getting creative.&=23160;

If I can get a terminal that supplies 150 Mbps, I can provision 1.5 Mbps = per customer to 100 customers. I can get a cheap OLT and run no more than= 500 meters of EPON (cheaper than GPON) from the Starlink terminal, using= splitters along the way, thus minimize risk of breaks and cuts. An EPON = OLT supports 64 ONUs per port, so my cost is about =24400 plus two S=46Ps= at =2450, total central CAPEX per customer =245. I amortize that with on= e month of service fee at =245...

I won=E2=80=99t do the full breakdown but you should get the idea :-)

Best,

Mike
On Aug 30, 2022, 22:36 +0200, Danie= l AJ Sokolov via Starlink <starlink=40lists.bufferbloat.net>, wrote= :
On 2022-08-30 at 13:09, Mike Puchol via Starlink wrote:
People who have a disposable income of =241= to =245 per month just cannot
be serviced by a financially viable service that relies on fiber.
Here, you need to start getting creative.

Indeed, but they can't afford Starlink either.
Daniel
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