From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D0BB3B2A4 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2022 10:22:07 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1644333723; bh=hEyvRcOkcaGB48YDOrJOV1IzktlkX8ihUuvHvMRM7Ng=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=E2lZO6Q0c/tjJgcP3ARaVz/bo7EhEzvscdhdl4TBH4M5KcY9VV2rCt+ITvN5BF3ZD ZTGupbQlY+rVP7sMo7LUcUOHiGqwKo/xzrOrtAGmSnFzUSyss+8ZlddArXB2YG+DRR 1EeNE/2NRacLw8KBWB/Ul5AEbMMz1hOGlHl99EeA= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M59C8-1nIYmN2CvM-001EeR; Tue, 08 Feb 2022 16:22:03 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <31598414-9e85-0c6e-653d-22a6a4dc2392@sokolov.eu.org> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 16:22:02 +0100 Cc: Mike Puchol , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3E093B0D-3916-4E0B-8F30-4C841E419395@gmx.de> References: <0d78acc3-1101-c7d2-c7a6-53158b8c1045@vdr.net> <44b2b090-457b-eb59-a75a-a0bbb0307073@candelatech.com> <431oq9ns-qnpn-n56r-6np6-374rsq317q@ynat.uz> <8ecdc077-1751-4302-a013-fa35b2291a87@Spark> <380541e2-c5fa-b3ff-b28c-8d3d993be416@cs.auckland.ac.nz> <5d9dab2c-3c20-4d18-aa1d-cc72bf250843@Spark> <736pq4q3-q21n-p6rn-9391-o56qn77npn2@ynat.uz> <9383f6d3-b6e3-de25-fee0-4416bd05c030@cs.auckland.ac.nz> <7ffdb646-0d02-c1fa-6857-576c2681490c@falco.ca> <2e2c67c8-839b-e1af-5937-78dab715d482@cs.auckland.ac.nz> <8b7fd197-777d-e963-628d-4cdff7c04380@sokolov.eu.org> <78be6869-375c-02a8-498b-7446287ab97d@cs.auckland.ac.nz> <0136de5b-a198-4ebf-8a12-baa2424c431d@Spark> <6b0b3d22-f3e6-a3bd-b04c-af15e5498560@sokolov.eu.org> <07e8f287-3da1-4890-817f-4daf945c8d12@Spark> <31598414-9e85-0c6e-653d-22a6a4dc2392@sokolov.eu.org> To: Daniel AJ Sokolov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:CRiNKsUr6qUPV2NqGPkHRxC3AzSt17bFA3+/miD6Hr+7TuC58oQ +myJ5Xh63mq7bxuCXFKYM8ppWIafsxBuxaH6RJe+tLCB33i8MXCMQ0UP2Wy0yfqN4FTmJSm Mk1lCcCyOr/xYCmuCxJbcTC+R3mNxcyrCkjPB1IiXKCopbcNV/PV08BSrjjDEcq46p3+751 /zKMNQ/HgWkjAPciOfq1w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:lfJi2NKWDN0=:inlme3AeU7gUKqTAZyyYFz 02OAIXEP5wNXvIX6dH723IEsAuIC/Rwom/9zVCv/FImUPFl0I9ostY5szUCUTeWa4GF/koldo irdMadWN6Q7RziP/7kDs/+P/LQGPlBdhBkxaucpU5Vn3iTf2AHpea+lLY9WJ/UhOVugdnv0Zw uRYPsRbrpS5Fhk+cflrv8RUydFHCb2fkR/jWw3iNrDXo/wnbNl1/BCWS2ZJS3qrI2J8edPiaD d0w+dmNlzqQnYAaok3eiabplAx/c2vm6gxdgwH8jcPgzKV4TLjZMpHZRCTBrc8BPefoNi/r0e 9G61yjhhBefvEt17Vwg/HDNbRFEdIQ/plHiwJDI/Uo4wKaPzQpuG8uQZVtfP+dCvDy3vEHOVX 1zhlbGcTbxMq0/3ZIXgeo3K8BJOR1Tw5JvLdhoi/pCPp/+xV5/eM2G3I3ezWi6Xf3Gi3w5pZS 7kM6orpOUmtuxoAgEOv1V7oX8BVMqGx0bv5ivR8SsQgMP1Y4Imt4YoiARzlhtsz8IPxaLtAng pzkt39IR7iJ4KLdNBDlguoUzwxevB/O4wnCT5TaHTj5/ya/SvR2cVwj8wt5kC1JHMxvYNtKDo h3hJrzuEVJuXLvM/xWRHm9E9H5Mg2RbNDUNNTm4zZ1vL3hod6QLer++fpd6MVom7VsiIn8ZbL LIHo3wGBDTf1UNlytsgj4sLhgTzSPPuiIf3NV27Cp7+m0rB1z/yN/RvJ8m0c4px1g8rQSJTke u/xOpUGk+99Hx7pH3tt7XLrCjHM+fRV3SOgv/0ii7afTcAqDOXgu4hMwmrlgBGTPm3w5iWMF0 ZiINLzF2/B/f2+yTydDswgSUO0eJPc07t49ENb0iXP8wG1aCRGdZde3bjGcU5mxWgatoznHk+ LHMdHohHPBJQ2ABNhh36Fl9sDPlyZbPmu3LExWgcI1at1suvePfDkseX2h/QmdIhJKXPmGqDT ikNJ9PHVPK+vTLE30/AU5usvr3n2prOJxACjXameJgyHIqdDYiCUno7iMCo40//L84q1CSjo5 idP1FkD8iYxErZfLdVamPf3R+XuECYxQJ+BC/168jdC1zXImgUy7bbk7mDeMbn6/i9fyN4UuW 8vVC9I2nL+RC10= Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink for Tonga? X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 15:22:08 -0000 Nice, well-written article in German about this topic, = https://www.heise.de/news/Starlink-fuer-Tongas-Internet-Zu-wenig-zu-spaet-= 6355794.html which feels based on information also discussed in this = thread ;) Regards Sebastian > On Feb 8, 2022, at 10:05, Daniel AJ Sokolov = wrote: >=20 > On 2022-02-08 at 01:58, Mike Puchol wrote: >> In the Equator, the GSO protection band starts due East, and goes all >> the way across the sky due West. It also takes out 37=C2=B0 of = visible sky >> at zenith. >=20 > Thank you. >=20 > If it goes all the way from East to West, how can one run any Starlink = there? >=20 > Does the protection area go from East to West via North, but Starlink = could use East to West via South? Or the other way round? >=20 > Or is the protection band only at certain angles off the ground? >=20 > I think I get the 37=C2=B0 at Zenit - Zenit +18 and -18. >=20 > Thank you! > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink