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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 6ee4864f6e815dd054a89e5e1190f0d4; Tue, 04 Jun 2024 23:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------c0tW8zOLP3Ajbhdis2LJ4CV2" Message-ID: <3ac687c4-e843-44e1-a216-a7f8840973ea@rogers.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2024 19:36:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <438B1BC4-D465-497A-B6BA-700E1D411036@ieee.org> <79C02ABB-B2A6-4B4D-98F4-6540D3F96EBB@ieee.org> <7E918B58-382A-4793-A144-13A7075CA56C@connectivitycap.com> <13rq2389-9012-p95n-s494-q3pp070s497n@ynat.uz> <6qop2p3o-351p-788q-q1q2-86sosnq3rn21@ynat.uz> <3FF32F52-4A93-496B-85FF-00020FA4A48B@gmx.de> <08F6942E-CC08-4956-B92E-CBEC091D86E4@ieee.org> <2F510BD5-2D7E-4A6A-A3DE-C529D14F6FBC@apple.com> Content-Language: en-US From: David Collier-Brown In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22407 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Subject: Re: [Starlink] Consumer Reportes (was: The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem) X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 23:36:38 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------c0tW8zOLP3Ajbhdis2LJ4CV2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Oh duh!  I'm getting old, and didn't realize how /smart/ that was./ / /Definitely/ try Consumers Reports, and cite an article from "a leading academic journal", the CACM. They'll probably expect something /utterly/ unintelligible, but Philippa Harrison's article at https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3564262 is just sort of bland. Then explain why the second of the "key insights" from the article, is relevant to Consumer Reports.  The key insights are probably all they'll read, you understand (:-)) Finally, introduce the non-profit nature of the community that solved the problem, and offer them as resources. That addresses the "what are you selling", and "can you help us test this stuff" questions, which will be the among the next things they'll want to know. --dave c-b On 2024-06-04 19:03, Rich Brown via Starlink wrote: > Yeah... I didn't write that as carefully as I could have. I was > switching between "user voice" (who'll say 'speed') and "expert" voice > (I know the difference). Check it now: > https://randomneuronsfiring.com/all-the-reasons-that-bufferbloat-isnt-a-problem/ -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain --------------c0tW8zOLP3Ajbhdis2LJ4CV2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Oh duh!  I'm getting old, and didn't realize how smart that was.

Definitely try Consumers Reports, and cite an article from "a leading academic journal", the CACM. They'll probably expect something utterly unintelligible, but Philippa Harrison's article at https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3564262 is just sort of bland.

Then explain why the second of the "key insights" from the article, is relevant to Consumer Reports.  The key insights are probably all they'll read, you understand (:-))

Finally, introduce the non-profit nature of the community that solved the problem, and offer them as resources. That addresses the "what are you selling", and "can you help us test this stuff" questions, which will be the among the next things they'll want to know.

--dave c-b



On 2024-06-04 19:03, Rich Brown via Starlink wrote:
Yeah... I didn't write that as carefully as I could have. I was switching between "user voice" (who'll say 'speed') and "expert" voice (I know the difference). Check it now: https://randomneuronsfiring.com/all-the-reasons-that-bufferbloat-isnt-a-problem/
-- 
David Collier-Brown,         | Always do right. This will gratify
System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest
davecb@spamcop.net           |              -- Mark Twain
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