It always bugs me to read the word "speed" in documents like these when they mean "data rate". The speed for all cable-bound technologies involved is about the same give or take a few percent and it's measured in metres/second. That taken into account, the figures given in the report are believable and reflect my experience here in NZ. What the report doesn't mention is pricing - HFC starts from NZ$53 (US$34) a month with my provider (Vodafone), Fibre Max from NZ$89 (US$57) - what you can get depends on where you are. BTW (Dave already knows) - we've gotten ourselves a Starlink unit as a technology reference platform at the School, and I took it on its first outing last week. We have a roaming subscription (NZ$199 / US$126) so don't expect top data rates. We went to a park in Auckland as campus is too built up and too H&S encumbered for operation on a roof.  This is what we saw on 3 interleaved tests using speedtest.net in the early afternoon (all figures in Mb/s). *Server* *Test 1* ** ** *Test 2* ** ** *Test 3 * ** ** *Average* ** ** ** /up/ /down/ /ping/ /up/ /down/ /ping/ /up/ /down/ /ping/ /up/ /down/ /ping/ *Spark* 15.13 76.01 38 4.18 74.09 4.18 11.52 75.39 92 10.28 75.16 44.73 *Vocusgroup* 9.74 64.85 54 1.4 76.56 31 12.27 54.42 36 7.80 65.28 40.33 *MyRepublic* 6.74 176.1 33 10.99 129.3 63 11.98 110.6 40 9.90 138.68 45.33 *Kordia* 3.01 124.1 43 14.29 150.3 32 2.39 85 63 6.56 119.82 46.00 ** *Average:* 8.66 110.27 42.00 7.72 107.58 32.55 9.54 81.36 57.75 8.64 99.74 44.10 Caveat: The park was still Central Auckland, so in an environment where there would have been very few subscribers for many miles around. Physical latency to / from satellite should have been well under 10 ms, so if Dave's rabbiting on about too much latency and bufferbloat in Starlink, he has a serious point here. Even accounting for use of South Island gateways, fibre backhaul to Auckland and BDP-sized buffers along the way, these numbers are not a good look at all! On 8/12/2022 11:11 am, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/295804/MBNZ-Spring-Report-2022-27-October-2022.pdf > > > -- > This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz > > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > -- **************************************************************** Dr. Ulrich Speidel School of Computer Science Room 303S.594 (City Campus) The University of Auckland u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/ ****************************************************************