From: Mike Puchol <mike@starlink.sx>
To: Starlink list <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc: Starlink list <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink no longer available to the Ukrainian army?
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 16:15:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3ea89257-d5f8-4fa9-a90a-c73d49d2a9e2@Spark> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tu46o8e3.wl-jch@irif.fr>
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We saw this in slums in Kenya. They are used to dozens of NGOs coming and going every year, usually lasting only as much as their donor/grant money. When we launched a commercial WiFi service, we had to make a huge effort to convince people they actually had to pay for the service, and that we were there to stay, not just another NGO offering free stuff.
In essence, once you give something away for free, not even setting the expectation that it’s a “freemium” model, it’s very hard to get out of it. If you then claim your costs are way higher than what analysis work out, eyebrows raise way above the hairline.
Best,
Mike
On Oct 14, 2022 at 15:13 +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>, wrote:
> > SpaceX was too generous early on and set expectations, and now seems to
> > be moving to the other side of the spectrum in terms of their costs,
> > with figures that seem, on the surface, unrealistic.
>
> Could you please explain this last point?
>
> -- Juliusz
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-14 12:06 Juliusz Chroboczek
2022-10-14 12:45 ` David Lang
2022-10-14 13:05 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2022-10-14 13:11 ` David Lang
2022-10-14 14:17 ` Mike Puchol
2022-10-14 18:26 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2022-10-14 20:44 ` Mike Puchol
2022-10-16 17:31 ` Steve Stroh
2022-10-16 17:56 ` Dave Taht
2022-10-16 18:28 ` Vint Cerf
2022-10-14 12:51 ` Mike Puchol
2022-10-14 13:13 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2022-10-14 14:15 ` Mike Puchol [this message]
2022-10-14 16:05 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2022-10-14 17:13 ` Kurtis Heimerl
2022-10-14 17:28 ` David Lang
2022-10-14 18:16 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2022-10-14 18:32 ` Larry Press
2022-10-14 19:32 ` Benjamin Henrion
2022-10-14 19:35 ` David Lang
2022-10-14 20:07 ` David Lang
2022-10-14 22:29 ` Dave Taht
2022-10-15 16:51 ` Larry Press
2022-10-16 6:42 ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-10-16 8:45 ` Bruce Perens
2022-10-16 16:31 ` Dave Taht
2022-10-16 17:00 ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-10-16 19:55 ` Brandon Butterworth
2022-10-16 20:25 ` Bruce Perens
2022-11-02 3:50 ` [Starlink] 25 years of open source - where we went wrong, and how to fix it Dave Taht
2022-10-14 19:13 ` [Starlink] Starlink no longer available to the Ukrainian army? tom
2022-10-14 19:41 ` David Lang
2022-10-14 20:09 ` Dave Taht
2022-10-16 17:50 ` Steve Stroh
2022-10-16 17:57 ` Nathan Owens
2022-10-16 18:01 ` Dave Taht
2022-10-16 18:29 ` Vint Cerf
2022-10-16 18:33 ` David Lang
2022-10-16 18:44 ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-10-16 19:03 ` Brandon Butterworth
2022-10-16 19:37 ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-10-16 19:51 ` David Lang
2022-10-16 20:37 ` Michael Richardson
2022-10-16 20:52 ` Bruce Perens
2022-10-16 22:17 ` Brandon Butterworth
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