From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A85993B2A4 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr (e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr [132.167.198.35]) by sainfoin-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 455DSjng045875; Wed, 5 Jun 2024 15:28:45 +0200 Received: from pps.filterd (e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr [127.0.0.1]) by e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr (8.18.1.2/8.18.1.2) with ESMTP id 455Cxk4v015059; Wed, 5 Jun 2024 15:28:45 +0200 Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by e-emp-a0.extra.cea.fr (PPS) with ESMTP id 3yggacs0a8-1; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 15:28:45 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.8.32.70] (is156570.intra.cea.fr [10.8.32.70]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id 455DSjH3051645; Wed, 5 Jun 2024 15:28:45 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------s0qCKaUqFvIwTqH0Z9FivMLj" Message-ID: <4008eb08-871b-4c1b-9cf3-025ba454cbc6@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 15:28:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: Aidan Van Dyk Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <79C02ABB-B2A6-4B4D-98F4-6540D3F96EBB@ieee.org> <7E918B58-382A-4793-A144-13A7075CA56C@connectivitycap.com> <13rq2389-9012-p95n-s494-q3pp070s497n@ynat.uz> <6qop2p3o-351p-788q-q1q2-86sosnq3rn21@ynat.uz> <3FF32F52-4A93-496B-85FF-00020FA4A48B@gmx.de> <08F6942E-CC08-4956-B92E-CBEC091D86E4@ieee.org> <2F510BD5-2D7E-4A6A-A3DE-C529D14F6FBC@apple.com> <1078E544-F61B-4289-BCA1-BCDD9FA77481@ieee.org> <97d6e6f0-d153-42fd-b6c1-b64fb429dfca@gmail.com> Content-Language: fr From: Alexandre Petrescu In-Reply-To: X-Proofpoint-GUID: haEQGH4wAfVCp-iQs6UPxcJF2JUdwP3I X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: haEQGH4wAfVCp-iQs6UPxcJF2JUdwP3I Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat isn't a problem X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 13:28:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------s0qCKaUqFvIwTqH0Z9FivMLj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Le 05/06/2024 à 15:08, Aidan Van Dyk a écrit : > On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 7:36 AM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink > wrote: > > A 'tele-presence' over satcom linking several persons each > speaking in high density bursts might need a 1ms RTT latency. > > > I've never been in a discussion with several people where we all > needed to be within 6 inches of each other's mouths/ears... :-) :-) well, ok.  One day the satcom latency will be so low that we will not have enough requirements for its use :-) Alex > > a. --------------s0qCKaUqFvIwTqH0Z9FivMLj Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


Le 05/06/2024 à 15:08, Aidan Van Dyk a écrit :
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 7:36 AM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

A 'tele-presence' over satcom linking several persons each speaking in high density bursts might need a 1ms RTT latency.


I've never been in a discussion with several people where we all needed to be within 6 inches of each other's mouths/ears...

:-) :-)

well, ok.  One day the satcom latency will be so low that we will not have enough requirements for its use :-)

Alex


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