From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
Cc: "Dave Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
"Dave Taht via Starlink" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
"Jamal Hadi Salim" <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Rpm] net neutrality back in the news
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:14:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <406472BC-B50D-48C6-B20E-4394EB198B6D@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRUe_5uiRJyDxb9Z@Space.Net>
Hi Gert,
> On Sep 28, 2023, at 08:36, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 08:25:31AM +0200, Sebastian Moeller via Starlink wrote:
>> ***) Strictly speaking IPv6 is required, since "internet access"
>> is defined as reaching all of the internet (as far as in the ISPs
>> power) and IPv6-only sites are not reachable for the CG-NAT-only
>> customers. But so far the local regulator does not seem to enforce
>> that requirement, or hopefully is working on this quietly behind
>> the curtains.
>
> I still maintain that a better google ranking for "content with IPv6"
> would bring us 90%+ IPv6 availability on the content side in a very
> short time (look at the craziness some of these SEOs are willing to
> endure, just to get a better ranking)...
[SM] This is pretty convincing, especially given your perspective (I only view these things from my pure end-user vantage point).
> (For Germany, I do not see the lone acces ISP without IPv6 as "the most
> sore spot", as most of the large ISPs and all of the mobile carriers
> include IPv6 nowadays - but content is still lacking)
[SM] Has Vodafone started using IPv6 for their DSL-users yet*? About the content that is an interesting question, I will try to measure in my home network what IPv4/IPv6 traffic ration I actually see.
Regards
Sebastian
*) According to https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/203020/umfrage/anzahl-der-dsl-kunden-von-vodafone-in-deutschland/ Vodafone Germany had around 2.5 Million DSL customers end on 2022 this is not a lot (there are roughly 40 Million access links in Germany) but it is also not "nothing".
>
> Gert Doering
> -- NetMaster
> --
> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-28 7:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-27 18:21 [Starlink] " Dave Taht
2023-09-28 3:33 ` [Starlink] [Rpm] " rjmcmahon
2023-09-28 6:06 ` Dave Taht
2023-10-01 17:08 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-05 19:22 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 6:25 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 6:36 ` Gert Doering
2023-09-28 7:14 ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2023-09-28 7:33 ` Gert Doering
2023-09-28 7:38 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 16:38 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 16:52 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 17:04 ` rjmcmahon
2023-09-28 19:31 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 19:39 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 20:08 ` [Starlink] [LibreQoS] " dan
2023-09-28 20:18 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-29 19:00 ` [Starlink] Getting Google to index. was:Re: " Rodney W. Grimes
2023-09-28 20:36 ` [Starlink] " Jeremy Austin
2023-09-28 20:54 ` [Starlink] [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 20:48 ` [Starlink] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 22:19 ` [Starlink] [Bloat] " David Lang
2023-09-29 4:54 ` Jonathan Morton
2023-09-29 12:28 ` [Starlink] [Rpm] [Bloat] [LibreQoS] " Rich Brown
2023-09-29 16:15 ` dan
2023-09-30 12:00 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-09-30 12:19 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-30 12:42 ` Vint Cerf
2023-09-30 14:07 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-30 14:41 ` Mike Conlow
[not found] ` <4129491C-FFC7-4E5E-A5A4-8CBE9B5C5255@gmx.de>
2023-09-30 15:23 ` [Starlink] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2023-09-30 17:35 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-30 21:57 ` [Starlink] New email list: NNagain for network neutrality Dave Taht
2023-10-04 22:19 ` [Starlink] [Bloat] [Rpm] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news Michael Richardson
2023-09-29 6:24 ` [Starlink] [Rpm] [Bloat] " Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-29 6:31 ` Gert Doering
2023-09-29 7:07 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 22:25 ` [Starlink] [Bloat] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] " David Lang
2023-09-28 17:10 ` [Starlink] [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 19:30 ` Dave Taht
2023-09-28 20:05 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-09-28 21:07 ` [Starlink] [EXTERNAL] " Livingood, Jason
2023-09-28 21:08 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-09-29 8:56 ` [Starlink] [Bloat] [EXTERNAL] " Erik Auerswald
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