From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF3083CB38 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5D838997; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id hagRRcyVpWXd; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2:40a:34ff:fe10:f571]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591933898F; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:32:04 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1682537524; bh=O8vhFa1nqzMCh7g69waZnn2jRdvfkme6wucTc0Lux14=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=j6Swg6FGINAlL6dD/cLMaZ2BP6aAF1fFc3u4pGc+27rVGer7ugeoDrXjtH2Olbv3E s3NqNM7qj+EfaBm6FYgfFoqfgha+HldT9MY9rnkvMGHKYZfr6Ihvlg+qSzHfLrmWyu sA4a9DN+X1wM9Bc1IPDt7T7Fkql4mYlxI4ZJoURdZtGeYdnhovKysjKIrbg34SRfxU 6eIpC+V2oNovw6d4sZgP8lwsLtKAIJf86vB0+48Et1NXuM215YUjBCgjd1QO5komNp twrZZDMDm3IefeFY/qpjb21p7npMyYbMy8jvIFmknmDQkBgaEsmh2/UOz4cNiAw/lb zCNQq+pPxacfw== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EDA442; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:14:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Bruce Perens , David Lang , Dave Taht via Starlink , Eugene Chang In-Reply-To: References: <74321D7F-D914-401B-8AE7-3185D9C2009C@alum.mit.edu> <8s710on2-s8r9-4n84-s0o0-386pn0psr08p@ynat.uz> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 27.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Starlink] some post Starship launch thoughts X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 19:14:10 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Bruce Perens via Starlink wrote: > Once upon a time, there was a thing called Orion, which was supposed to be > a big heavy shield that would be propelled into space by setting off atomic > bombs on one side of it. Lots and lots of bombs. At some point people > thought they could make a shield good enough. What SpaceX puts in now is > going to be the closest we have come to Orion, just upside down. For fun, read Charles Stross' Merchange Princes series. Book "9", _Invisible Sun_, while a bit uneven, includes their Orion spacecraft. They have the advantage that the can Jaunt to alternative universes before doing all the atomic bombing, and then, once in orbit, Jaunt back. ISS Astronaut in time line 2 (US) should have been given the line: "That's not the moon"... --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFFBAEBCgAvFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAmRJeAARHG1jckBzYW5k ZWxtYW4uY2EACgkQgItw+93Q3WWpOgf/WqZSmMbpmCV6nqRYmEDNQ3TPiqIy1mfa q5r3ie0NxEdQrEqv8FgQSKu2zRb00JRVeS9O0qgpCNIFwhrL03kSY0SB0kdUJFwO woPn5pv/EnTs5k1ZCGAxqi4Pg8Tp5zg2P5/Hhy/O09H7AjQCh3ZFdUnZYa87hA9g R9GrO631kDHUWByn0awpDEQA1WJIyF8OvITb2tqr6x7GDFn/X91WDOUMIpxDVEZY 7h3hSWQLmsw7AUXDDIbr6u2p3sk9H+DL5jSCIlnsOi6MiU4/7jEUBu726K3IIXUH hLtjkfnoxuNtCr8/zMrwc2WFEJC6YDJpOZH3tOzJAjEJCyG9Mf5FxA== =Nh6i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--