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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink for Tonga?
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 13:24:13 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <431oq9ns-qnpn-n56r-6np6-374rsq317q@ynat.uz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44b2b090-457b-eb59-a75a-a0bbb0307073@candelatech.com>

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the dish aimes at where it sees the most satellites, not necessarily 53. I took 
my dish to a campground where there were trees to the north and it ended up 
pointing straight up (Los Angeles area) performance was fine.

when you power it on, the dish tilts and swivels to point straight up (no idea 
what the angle logic is), and after a few min of watching the sky will re-aim 
itself if/as needed.

David Lang

On Mon, 7 Feb 2022, Ben Greear wrote:

> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 13:18:49 -0800
> From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
> To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink for Tonga?
> 
> 90 or even much smaller percentage is a lot better than zero.
>
> I wonder if they can point the dish towards the horizon to pick up the sat 
> where
> it can best see the functional downlink.  I realize the dish auto-points 
> itself
> now, but surely engineers that can design that can also design an 'off' 
> switch
> for that and let their on-the-ground folks do some hacking....
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> On 2/7/22 11:05 AM, Christian von der Ropp wrote:
>> But in practice the satellites won't be sitting and waiting at the edge of 
> this 940km radius. They are moving in and out the radius and the question is 
> if 
>> satellite density is high enough so that once the serving satellite loses 
> its gateway link there's another satellite in the 940km radius which also 
> covers 
>> Tonga. And then this new satellite cannot be within certain elevation 
> angles (~60-80° at 0° azimuth) where the geostationary arc crosses Fijian 
> skies and the 
>> gateway antennas have to seize emission. My gut feeling is that 
> availability in Tonga would be <90% simply because it's too far out at the 
> edge of a Fijian 
>> gateway's range where there will be frequent service interruptions.
>> 
>> 
>> Am 07.02.2022 um 19:51 schrieb Nathan Owens:
>>> The current coverage radius of a gateway/ground station with a 25 degree 
> minimum elevation is ~940km, so nothing in theory.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 10:50 AM Daniel AJ Sokolov <daniel@sokolov.eu.org> 
> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hello,
>>>
>>>     I hope this is not offtopic: Starlink wants to build a ground station 
> on
>>>     Fiji to supply Tonga with internet.
>>>
>>>     The distance between Tonga and Fiji is about 750 km minimum. That's
>>>     quite the distance.
>>>
>>>     What does Starlink have to do to make this work?
>>>
>>>     Cheers
>>>     Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-07 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-07 18:50 Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-07 18:51 ` Nathan Owens
2022-02-07 19:05   ` Christian von der Ropp
2022-02-07 19:06     ` Nathan Owens
2022-02-07 20:38       ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-07 20:44         ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-10  7:53           ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-07 21:18     ` Ben Greear
2022-02-07 21:24       ` David Lang [this message]
2022-02-07 21:36         ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-07 22:22           ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-07 22:29             ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-07 23:36               ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-07 23:47                 ` David Lang
2022-02-08  0:20                   ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-08  1:20                     ` David Lang
2022-02-08  4:46                       ` Inemesit Affia
2022-02-08  6:25                         ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-08  7:30                           ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-08  7:49                             ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-08  8:22                               ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-08  8:47                                 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-08  8:49                                   ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-08  8:58                                     ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-08  9:05                                       ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-08  9:10                                         ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-08 15:22                                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-02-08 10:11                                       ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-08 13:50                                         ` Christian von der Ropp
2022-02-08 15:28                                           ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-08 16:25                                             ` Dave Taht
2022-02-08 18:20                                               ` Gary E. Miller
2022-02-08 19:12                                               ` David Lang
2022-02-09 12:09                                                 ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-09 19:28                                               ` [Starlink] Sunburp kills 40 starlink satellites Doc Searls
2022-02-09 19:51                                                 ` Michael Richardson
2022-02-09 12:58                                   ` [Starlink] Starlink for Tonga? Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-18  5:04               ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-02-18  7:27                 ` Mike Puchol
2022-02-18  9:01                   ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-04-19 11:57                     ` Mike Puchol
2022-04-19 12:06                       ` Dave Taht
2022-04-19 12:43                         ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-04-20  1:06                           ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-04-20  1:14                             ` Jeremy Austin
2022-02-18 10:27                   ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-02-18 12:48                     ` Rich Brown
2022-02-18 15:43                       ` Nathan Owens
2022-02-18 10:29                   ` Ulrich Speidel

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