[Starlink] Subsidised in Canada for Starlink-Hardware

[Starlink] Subsidised in Canada for Starlink-Hardware

[Daniel AJ Sokolov]

Hello,

The Canadian province of Quebec wants to subsidise 
Starlink-subscriptions for 10,200 hard to reach homes. The subsidy, 
apparently, is not ongoing, but a one-off for purchasing the hardware.

In four Manitoba communities, federal money will provide a subsidy of 
CAD 900 each for 1,162 households. That covers the device plus tax, but 
not Starlink's delivery fee or any cost of installation.

https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched

https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html

FYI
Daniel

Re: [Starlink] Subsidised in Canada for Starlink-Hardware

[Ulrich Speidel]

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I note that the four communities are all clustered in a relatively small 
area on the eastern shores of Lake Manitoba, more or less in walking 
distance of each other. That's a significant number of terminals for 
such a small area. It'll be interesting to see whether Starlink will 
have the capacity to service them all. Mind you, they're just south of 
the 53rd parallel, where satellite density is highest, so if not there, 
then where? But I guess this probably comes on top of an existing 
customer base in a wider area awash with hard-to-reach users.

On 17/05/2022 9:22 am, Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The Canadian province of Quebec wants to subsidise
> Starlink-subscriptions for 10,200 hard to reach homes. The subsidy,
> apparently, is not ongoing, but a one-off for purchasing the hardware.
>
> In four Manitoba communities, federal money will provide a subsidy of
> CAD 900 each for 1,162 households. That covers the device plus tax, but
> not Starlink's delivery fee or any cost of installation.
>
> https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched 
> <https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched>
>
> https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html 
> <https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html>
>
> FYI
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Starlink] Subsidised in Canada for Starlink-Hardware

[Dave Täht]

On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:08:46AM +1200, Ulrich Speidel wrote:
> I note that the four communities are all clustered in a relatively small
> area on the eastern shores of Lake Manitoba, more or less in walking
> distance of each other. That's a significant number of terminals for such a
> small area. It'll be interesting to see whether Starlink will have the
> capacity to service them all. Mind you, they're just south of the 53rd
> parallel, where satellite density is highest, so if not there, then where?
> But I guess this probably comes on top of an existing customer base in a
> wider area awash with hard-to-reach users.

It would be saner to have a correct number of starlink termnals,
and to further spread the network around via fixed wireless, or
even cabling up portions of the neighborhood. This is a job for a
WISP/starlink partnership, methinks.

> 
> On 17/05/2022 9:22 am, Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >The Canadian province of Quebec wants to subsidise
> >Starlink-subscriptions for 10,200 hard to reach homes. The subsidy,
> >apparently, is not ongoing, but a one-off for purchasing the hardware.
> >
> >In four Manitoba communities, federal money will provide a subsidy of
> >CAD 900 each for 1,162 households. That covers the device plus tax, but
> >not Starlink's delivery fee or any cost of installation.
> >
> >https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched <https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched>
> >
> >https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html <https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html>
> >
> >FYI
> >Daniel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Dr. Ulrich Speidel
> 
> School of Computer Science
> 
> Room 303S.594 (City Campus)
> 
> The University of Auckland
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Re: [Starlink] Subsidised in Canada for Starlink-Hardware

[David Lang]

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On Thu, 26 May 2022, Dave Täht wrote:

> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:08:46AM +1200, Ulrich Speidel wrote:
>> I note that the four communities are all clustered in a relatively small
>> area on the eastern shores of Lake Manitoba, more or less in walking
>> distance of each other. That's a significant number of terminals for such a
>> small area. It'll be interesting to see whether Starlink will have the
>> capacity to service them all. Mind you, they're just south of the 53rd
>> parallel, where satellite density is highest, so if not there, then where?
>> But I guess this probably comes on top of an existing customer base in a
>> wider area awash with hard-to-reach users.
>
> It would be saner to have a correct number of starlink termnals,
> and to further spread the network around via fixed wireless, or
> even cabling up portions of the neighborhood. This is a job for a
> WISP/starlink partnership, methinks.

I suspect that in many of these areas, your concept of 'the neighborhood' is 
going to be incorrect.

David Lang

>> 
>> On 17/05/2022 9:22 am, Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote:
>> 
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >The Canadian province of Quebec wants to subsidise
>> >Starlink-subscriptions for 10,200 hard to reach homes. The subsidy,
>> >apparently, is not ongoing, but a one-off for purchasing the hardware.
>> >
>> >In four Manitoba communities, federal money will provide a subsidy of
>> >CAD 900 each for 1,162 households. That covers the device plus tax, but
>> >not Starlink's delivery fee or any cost of installation.
>> >
>> >https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched <https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched>
>> >
>> >https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html <https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html>
>> >
>> >FYI
>> >Daniel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >Starlink mailing list
>> >Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> >https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>> ><https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink>
>> 
>> -- 
>> ****************************************************************
>> Dr. Ulrich Speidel
>> 
>> School of Computer Science
>> 
>> Room 303S.594 (City Campus)
>> 
>> The University of Auckland
>> u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz  http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/
>> ****************************************************************
>> 
>> 
>
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