From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bosmailout05.eigbox.net (bosmailout05.eigbox.net [66.96.187.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE55B3B2A4 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from bosmailscan01.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.1]) by bosmailout05.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1nMeML-0002bO-BO for starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net; Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:14:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alum.mit.edu; s=dkim; h=Sender:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Cc:To:From:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=d2A1Sl0NHzPDpENn9EPDBqJKEoHr7mMDgBVRXZKEpsw=; b=BYETfKqBobn1bL3zih4hL6uVkP FNwewftEP92J9T5brqxJtfHrjeQXhXqYgHgWN+lTd0JfraW7fL+9jgvnigDCeuexjHUcp70+9/yau s9zEa36gYlE98S99iSJtM9+uKSKD4El12v9HuZBGE16iSGKfB2rpsIrPYGnFDjxlHpdnofE3ITpcx 0Ax9LIessKQdZAp+ikW7YPbx55tF8jnSkavVTPB6sW/n0DYcEAewONopPgojfTVybtS1vFV78mkef 94KMw1DMby5WfzC6bXBTT26egPbvGHLAps1LxsM0eb2hAJMOn4eEhTfXCWeeE0Y1wndhVywmO7YXC LthiiA2Q==; Received: from [10.115.3.32] (helo=bosimpout12) by bosmailscan01.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1nMeMK-0007LR-SJ for starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net; Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:14:16 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp16.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.20.18.16]) by bosimpout12 with id yPED2600i0LoEWa01PEGdK; Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:14:16 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=d4VuNSrE c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=2OW49aEHms2tn/AeNJ+rfA==:117 a=nIEF4cAZMyOU5h9mcfI6lg==:17 a=oGFeUVbbRNcA:10 a=6ulraYUaiNAA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=kurRqvosAAAA:8 a=O0AtOq_cH1ehBUngbBkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=SEjCNwcRSSQVuwpQ:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=kbxRQ_lfPIoQnHsAj2-A:22 Received: from c-67-180-86-211.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([67.180.86.211]:63977 helo=SRA6) by bosauthsmtp16.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1nMeMH-0000Oe-D7; Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:14:13 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Dick Roy" To: "'David Lang'" Cc: "'Daniel AJ Sokolov'" , References: <1p492142-q944-r494-6s6r-p6q37s57qnq4@ynat.uz> <1F1EB112F8CB446FAB4BF308A76955FA@SRA6> <0ac195f5-3668-4c96-8dec-8a2d59a0bd52@Spark> <866405-s043-n12n-6pqs-46o38r189218@ynat.uz> <38pr9p5s-3ro4-49p9-9535-7o92oqrq62r1@ynat.uz> <6520435B9E534AE6B242E102B15FECF3@SRA6> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 15:14:09 -0800 Organization: SRA Message-ID: <45F9E26E99754134B3A17B804BEF319B@SRA6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0C10_01D827FE.D9BBF560" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AdgnyeO64EhGQOErTxy+HS8HgQ5HiwAd68sQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE X-EN-UserInfo: f809475445fb8041985048e338e1a001:931c98230c6409dcc37fa7e93b490c27 X-EN-AuthUser: dickroy@intellicommunications.com Sender: "Dick Roy" X-EN-OrigIP: 67.180.86.211 X-EN-OrigHost: c-67-180-86-211.hsd1.ca.comcast.net Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:14:17 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0C10_01D827FE.D9BBF560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: David Lang [mailto:david@lang.hm] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 12:55 AM To: Dick Roy Cc: 'David Lang'; 'Daniel AJ Sokolov'; starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: RE: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming On Mon, 21 Feb 2022, Dick Roy wrote: > My thinking is that the laser links will make it possible to route the > traffic >> from wherever I am to the appropriate ground station that I'm registered > with as opposed to the current bent-pipe approach where, if I move to far from > my registered location, I need to talk to a different ground station. > > > > [RR] It is important to remember there is no need to go through a particular > ground station. What is necessary is to authenticate the dishy to the > network. Authentication servers will probably be distributed so that it can > happen quickly and the resulting flows and paths can be configured > independently. long term you are correct, short term I expect that dishes are assigned a specific ground station. It's a choice that would get them up and running faster, and with a fixed bent-pipe arrangement, doesn't really hurt that much (again, short term) [RR] Agreed! Many of these early decisions on system architecture will likely change going forward with no problems. RR David Lang ------=_NextPart_000_0C10_01D827FE.D9BBF560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lang [mailto:david@lang.hm]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 12:55 AM
To: Dick Roy
Cc: 'David Lang'; 'Daniel AJ Sokolov'; = starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: RE: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming

 

On Mon, 21 Feb 2022, Dick Roy = wrote:

 

> My thinking is that the laser links will make it possible = to route the

> traffic

>> from wherever I am to the appropriate ground station = that I'm registered

> with as opposed to the current bent-pipe approach where, if = I move to far from

> my registered location, I need to talk to a different = ground station.

> 

> 

> 

> [RR] It is important to remember there is no need to go = through a particular

> ground station.  What is necessary is to authenticate = the dishy to the

> network. Authentication servers will probably be = distributed so that it can

> happen quickly and the resulting flows and paths can be = configured

> independently.

 

long term you are correct, short term I expect that dishes are = assigned a

specific ground station. It's a choice that would get them up = and running

faster, and with a fixed bent-pipe arrangement, doesn't really = hurt that much

(again, short term)

[RR] Agreed! Many of these early decisions on system architecture will likely change = going forward with no problems.

 

RR

 

David Lang

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