Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week

[Noel Butler <noel.butler@ausics.net>]

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On 23/09/2023 20:53, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote:

> Now what that tells me is that you and those that use your mail / web 
> servers are within networks that are either in networks that are old 
> and have legacy IPv4 allocations, or that are new, desparate, and rich.

Mail is mostly Australian since that's where my userbase is, but there 
is considerable international (even when I exclude the spambots, gmail, 
outlook socials etc), as for WWW, and excluding most bots, last time I 
checked webalizer the figures on a couple of my sites were less than 10% 
from Aus and the rest (obviously) international, so its more varied than 
one might think, but it does vary depending on the site being visited, I 
don't run the BBC or CNN, so of course I wont see the diverse ranges 
they will.

> So you're in the process of being outnumbered. But that's perhaps of 
> academic interest only, for now, at least.

Yes, like I previously said, not in my lifetime.

> I came home from APNIC54 last year with the insight that my employer's 
> /16 IPv4 allocation was worth around US$3.5 million. Since we've had 
> the /16 for ages, I started wondering whether this was even on our 
> asset list. I was pretty sure that it ought to be. Turns out it wasn't 
> - when

I've no doubt they aren't on many, but putting a price on an intangible 
asset that varies is not so easy, what it's worth today it wont be in 
six months, yes, with ipv4 that means probably worth more, but a new 
buyer might not want nor need them, so that's another sales stream you 
need to find, and then you're competing against others with the same 
asset, a CGNAT device is physical one they can keep using without 
interrupting services to clients if they so choose, the only intangible 
asset that's worth something is the ongoing good will, you don't get 
that from address space unless you have a fresh faced startup type 
buyer. I'm curious though, your part of a University, so it's not like 
you're going to be able to use that extra 3.5m, I don;t see the Uni 
giving up its resources, a business of course is a different matter.

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Regards,
Noel Butler

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