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From: Ulrich Speidel <u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz>
To: Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com>
Cc: Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink and Iran
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 23:30:54 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <480e5761-b0b8-4bfb-87bb-a2079e3aef66@auckland.ac.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJEhh70xv2fPLj=BvYYsehAJrg7Eyg=q0dF0djX+ZBNWZXsD3Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 15/01/2026 11:06 pm, Inemesit Affia wrote:
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> Wrt to DTC, you'll need SIM's, e-SIM or physical. Much easier to make 
> and ship than regular Starlink receiver. 4G requires mutual 
> authentication.

Indeed, but that doesn't address problems related to user density - you 
really can't support tens of thousands of people in a city that way. It 
really only works for a handful of folks in a larger area at a time. 
It's not an easily scalable solution.

One NZ currently handles perhaps a few thousand TXT messages (if that 
many) via satellite a day in a country about 1/6th of the area of Iran 
and are actively rationing the service by making it a premium product 
even though few people can actually physically use it because 
terrestrial coverage is so good. This simply doesn't scale to anywhere 
near the needs of 90M+ Iranians, let alone in a few weeks.

>
> There's more spectrum to use if the towers are switched off as opposed 
> to not terminating calls.
That's supposing someone will do SpaceX a favour and switch the local 
base stations off in large numbers. Not realistic.
>
> Maybe it can be delivered as an app store app?

Getting e-Sims in is the easy part, getting the rest to work is the hard 
bit. D2C for Iran is simply a non-starter - whatever is there in terms 
of Dishys already dwarfs it in terms of capacity by orders of magnitude.

Iranian Internet users do need hope, but a lot of what's circulating out 
there at the moment is hype and people's imagination having gone wild. A 
lot of that is giving false hope, and that's probably the last thing 
people need right now.

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Dr. Ulrich Speidel

School of Computer Science

Room 303S.594 (City Campus)

The University of Auckland
u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz 
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-15 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-15  9:51 [Starlink] Starlink and Iran Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:06 ` [Starlink] " Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 10:30   ` Ulrich Speidel [this message]
2026-01-15 10:44     ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 11:16       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:32 ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 10:51   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 11:17 ` David Lang
2026-01-15 11:59   ` Sauli Kiviranta
2026-01-15 14:08     ` David Lang
2026-01-15 15:29       ` Sauli Kiviranta
     [not found]   ` <3af2ac06-e098-4c79-869d-9c389959ca07@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <q9304244-661o-3qsr-o6rp-9q1nqq09r419@ynat.uz>
     [not found]       ` <4ba64a41-bbbf-4fb5-adb0-c77c15e4ca0f@gmail.com>
2026-01-15 16:20         ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 20:12   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 17:10 ` J Pan
2026-01-15 20:07   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:47     ` Oleg Kutkov
2026-01-16  4:18       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-16  8:12         ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16  8:24           ` Inemesit Affia
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-01-15 14:50 David Fernández
2026-01-15 16:11 ` Oleg Kutkov
2026-01-15 17:13   ` J Pan
     [not found] <176849731431.1249.14387618908540773471@gauss>
2026-01-15 17:42 ` Colin_Higbie
2026-01-15 18:56   ` Jim Forster
2026-01-15 20:15     ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 20:27   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 20:30     ` Hayden Simon
2026-01-15 21:06       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:09         ` Hayden Simon
2026-01-15 21:20           ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:23             ` Hayden Simon
     [not found] <176851123059.1249.8585659892308012167@gauss>
2026-01-15 21:49 ` Colin_Higbie
2026-01-15 23:15   ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16  0:13   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-16  1:29     ` David Lang
2026-01-16 22:55       ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16 23:06         ` J Pan
     [not found]     ` <13187.1768590201@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2026-01-16 23:30       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-17  0:07         ` David Lang
2026-01-17 21:56           ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-19 20:39             ` David Lang
2026-01-28  3:09               ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28  3:30                 ` David Lang
2026-01-28  4:02                   ` Mike Puchol
2026-01-28  9:05                     ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28  9:53                       ` David Lang
2026-01-28 20:43                         ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28 20:55                           ` David Lang
2026-01-17 18:32         ` Michael Richardson
2026-01-17 18:38           ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-17 19:25             ` Michael Richardson
2026-01-17 22:12           ` Ulrich Speidel

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