From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp90.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp90.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E40CA3B2A4 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:13:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=evslin.com; s=20220608-p431o605; t=1681953180; bh=YW6ryoC/FqmV7RH/0YdjGf/pfsVwtT3qA/SfaJY7g+A=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=IclTzaYn9tFjxt10tQ0MC2CDicxNM9FaX53m1t5MRA0SAFKbWtboMcU765Autgxnt 1Om1CFlE2oozxHsAOYxtxL1MSGLwyNpTCeIrH0LDL6L4ebA6ljnJOXAXIMW6eu9NIb XuDx37kAEK/fay+RMDKefKxNPBMPmdjbbCqLJD+Y= X-Auth-ID: tom@evslin.com Received: by smtp4.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: tom-AT-evslin.com) with ESMTPSA id 04516428A; Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:12:59 -0400 (EDT) From: To: "'Michael Richardson'" , "'starlink'" , References: <1272.1681406523@localhost> <8151.1681416108@localhost> <24341.1681947286@localhost> In-Reply-To: <24341.1681947286@localhost> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:12:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4f0fa01d97325$3f72e9a0$be58bce0$@evslin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQGfcf8rdV9fcfdN62U6LEUNM3xnMQHQUZLFAoTUVTcCuc6v/wLaY+vwr1gbRBA= Content-Language: en-us X-Classification-ID: 66840d08-5b87-413c-aa30-710d57d9cec5-1-1 Subject: Re: [Starlink] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space) X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 01:13:00 -0000 I think space-based data centers will be the rule rather than the = exception. Wrote about that a couple of years ago although, as usual, = things have not happened as quickly as I predicted = https://blog.tomevslin.com/2021/07/computing-clouds-in-orbit-a-possible-r= oadmap.html -----Original Message----- From: Starlink On Behalf Of = Michael Richardson via Starlink Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 7:35 PM To: starlink ; e-impact@ietf.org Subject: [Starlink] DataCenters in Space (was Re: fiber IXPs in space) I saw this reported in BIS-Spaceflight. (I'm usually a few months behind in reading it) I like the "first = objective"! https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/space/press-release/ascend-thale= s-alenia-space-lead-european-feasibility-study-data Cannes, November 14, 2022 =E2=80=93 Thales Alenia Space, the joint = company between Thales (67%) and Leonardo (33%), has been chosen by the = European Commission to lead the ASCEND (Advanced Space Cloud for = European Net zero emission and Data sovereignty) feasibility study for = data centers in orbit, as part of Europe=E2=80=99s vast Horizon Europe = research program. Digital technology=E2=80=99s expanding environmental footprint is = becoming a major challenge: the burgeoning need for digitalization means that data = centers in Europe and around the world are growing at an exponential = pace, which in turn has a critical energy and environmental impact. The first objective of this study will be to assess if the carbon = emissions from the production and launch of these space infrastructures = will be significantly lower than the emissions generated by ground-based = data centers, therefore contributing to the achievement of global carbon = neutrality. The second objective will be to prove that it is possible to = develop the required launch solution and to ensure the deployment and = operability of these spaceborne data centers using robotic assistance = technologies currently being developed in Europe, such as the EROSS IOD = demonstrator. This project is expected to demonstrate to which extent space-based data = centers would limit the energy and environmental impact of their ground = counterparts, thus allowing major investments within the scope of = Europe=E2=80=99s Green Deal, possibly justifying the development of a = more climate-friendly, reusable heavy launch vehicle. Europe could thus = regain its leadership in space transport and space logistics, as well as = the assembly and operations of large infrastructures in orbit. _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink