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From: Ulrich Speidel <u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz>
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: [Starlink] Re: FCC declares all new router models illegal
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 15:01:23 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4fce5ae5-382b-437f-867f-512a2f478a39@auckland.ac.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ffae0fc9-fc8d-4b2a-a04b-42c301e489b9@falco.ca>

Well it's not entirely off-topic:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74787w149zo

Quote:

> One exception to the general absence of US-made routers is the newer 
> Starlink WiFi router. Starlink is part of Elon Musk's company SpaceX.
>
> The company says the Starlink routers are made in Texas
>
To be frank, I'm not surprised. Ability to infiltrate and interfere with 
someone else's network and the resources it harbours is a key advantage 
in conflict. I'd be surprised if this wasn't actively exploited at scale 
in fact.

On 24/03/2026 1:36 pm, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> this may be somewhat off topic, but I think you will all want to know 
> this: Today, the FCC has declared that only routers manufactured in 
> the US may obtain valid FCC certification.
>
> "Production generally includes any major stage of the process through 
> which the device is made, including manufacturing, assembly, design, 
> and development."
>
> I am not aware of any consumer grade router that would be considered 
> made in the US under these rules. Are there any?
>
> Are there any routers that work entirely without open source software?
>
> Previously approved routers are still OK - kind of. The challenge 
> there is that software updates are affected by the new restrictions. 
> The FCC has provided an exemption until March 1, 2027, for certain 
> software updates - after that, who knows.
>
> Manufacturers can apply for exemptions, if - and only if - they have a 
> detailed, time-bound "U.S. Manufacturing and Onshoring Plan", Also, 
> they must disclose competition-sensitive information.
>
> For the official documents, start here:
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers 
>
>
> FYI
> Daniel
>
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-24  2:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-24  0:36 [Starlink] FCC declares all new router models illegal Daniel AJ Sokolov
2026-03-24  1:56 ` [Starlink] " David Collier-Brown
2026-03-24  2:01 ` Ulrich Speidel [this message]
2026-03-24  2:09   ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2026-03-24  2:10     ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-03-24  2:20       ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2026-03-24  3:06   ` Daniel AJ Sokolov
2026-03-24  3:39     ` Inemesit Affia
2026-03-24  4:02 ` David Lang
2026-03-24  9:58   ` Brandon Butterworth
2026-03-24 22:12     ` David Lang
2026-03-24 23:38       ` Kenneth Porter
2026-03-25  1:00         ` David Lang
     [not found] <177433579052.1741.14062725913348705478@gauss>
2026-03-24 18:10 ` David Fernández

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